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Jungfraujoch ice caves advice

Carolyn Hammett , Jul 18, 1999; 01:07 p.m.

Has anyone had any experience photographing in the Jungfraujoch ice caves in Switzerland? Any advice re: light levels and exposure, film type (I'll be shooting slides), lenses? ..thanks...Carolyn

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Dave Ciskowski , Jul 19, 1999; 09:52 a.m.

Carolyn,

Wow, thanks for bringing back some great memories of last summer! First, if you have any flexibility, make sure that the weather is fabulous before heading up to Jungfraujoch. Clouds mean that you won't see much of the glaciers or mountains, and IMHO that's the biggest reason to take the trip.

When I was there, the caves were quite filled with other tourists wandering around. If you want pristine photos with no people, it's possible but you'll have to be patient. It would be awfully tough to use a tripod, because most of the passages aren't very wide.

The caves are fairly dim so you'll almost have to use flash. I think this will bring out more detail in the ice anyway. All I had was a wimpy on-camera flash and the photos came out well. I think that I weighed low light (and cheesy flash) against bright white background and decided to stick with the default exposure. My negatives are slightly underexposed. If you had time and space to play, you could probably get some amazing results from backlighting the ice sculptures, but that would take a lot of experimentation (and a lot of film).

I was shooting Agfapan 25 (B&W print) because of the brilliantly lit glaciers outside. This made it a bit of a challenge inside the ice caves, but the photos I took came out well. I don't think it's worth using a particularly fast film, since you'll probably be using flash anyway. I would be worried about slides because it's a tough lighting situation, especially with flash. The ambient light is fairly dim but the flash will really pop off the shiny white ice. I don't know how much color you would get from the ice. I recall it as having a slight blue tint, but perhaps the flash would really pull that out.

It's a challenging situation. The ice caves were fun but for me the more interesting thing was to see the glacier and activities outside. You can get out onto the glaciers and spend quite a bit of time walking around. We took the short hike (maybe a km or so?) to the Monchsjochhutte, across the glacier to the east. It's an easy walk on a well-trodden path, and gives you a chance to really see what the glacier is like. You can also grab a hot chocolate at the hut, a much lest touristy option than the restaurants at Jungfraujoch.

I hope this is helpful. I'll be in the darkroom tomorrow -- I'll try to do a print or two, scan them, and add it here. Drop me a line if you'd like to discuss things further. Have a great time!

Cheers, Dave

Bruce J Leventhal , Jul 19, 1999; 12:18 p.m.

Carolyn, I was there about this time last year. First, be prepared for a long hike up about 1000 steps. The higher you go, the more you feel it!. You will need a tripod. I shot velvia in the cave w/ both 35mm and my hassleblad. I found that the long exposure / natural light images were far more pleasing than anything I attempted with a flash. As the previous poster suggested, hope that you have clear weather and blue skys. Have fun...

regards bruce

Dave Ciskowski , Jul 22, 1999; 04:15 p.m.

I'll post a photo I took last summer in the ice caves. (My apologies if I don't get this right...)

(This was printed without any dodging or burning, at a medium level of contrast. So it should be fairly representative of the negative.)

As you can see, the flash is really an issue. It really popped the frontmost penguin, but didn't reach far enough to catch the further sculptures. (Or, possibly the flash quenched because the front sculpture reflected so much light.) Probably the best thing would be to use an off-camera flash, but I know that kind of equipment isn't on your packing list.

Hope this helps!

Cheers, Dave (cisko@eudoramail.com)


Jungfraujoch Ice Caves (August 1998)

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