James H , Nov 14, 2000; 06:00 a.m.
I love the Contax G system, and have a few bodies and most of the
lenses. The only lenses I do not own are the 16mm and the 21mm. I am
not entertaining the 16mm, but I'm close to deciding on a 21mm. I do
have a few reservations. I do not have any fears regarding the
quality of the 21mm lens. I'm convinced of the superiority of Zeiss
glass. And, although these lenses are not cheap by some standards,
they are a very good value compared to similar lenses.
My primary concern is in reference to the separate viewfinder for the
21mm lens. I believe most veiwfinders on rangefinder cameras are
offset to the left, not the right. Though I love the parallax
correction of the G cameras, I would like to hear from those who have
used the 21mm Biogon at close distances to their subjects and your
comments regarding framing, parallax, and the separate viewfinder.
My other concern regarding the viewfinder is how secure it is on the
hot-shoe. I remember reading where a gentleman voiced his concern for
the lack of a lock on the separate viewfinder, stating that he thought
the viewfinder might be susceptible to loss or damage. I might like to
leave it attached to one of my cameras most of the time.
I'm also debating the black 21mm Biogon vs. the titanium 21mm. I have
both a black and a titanium G2 body, as well as a titanium G1. I like
the black lenses overall, but the 21mm may live on the G1 because of
its separate viewfinder. One concern I have about using the 21mm on
the G1 is the inferior manual focusing and the lack of the focus-lock
button. Maybe the G2 is a better camera for the 21mm? This would
likely only be a concern if people or faster moving subjects are
involved.
Then there is the whole issue of using the separate viewfinder vs. the
on-camera finder for focusing. I have read one post where a gentleman
said that the G cameras allow you to look through the auxiliary
viewfinder and use autofocus with few problems compared to other
rangefinders.
I was considering buying the 21mm from a new company, Eli Kurland
Photographic (kurlandphoto.com) who advertises both the black and
titanium lenses for about $300.00 less than what the competition will
sell them for, $1000.00 and $800.00 respectively. Can anyone offer
any advice regarding dealing with this company?
Any and all comments you are willing to share with me will be greatly
appreciated.
Jam
Henrik Rundgren , Nov 14, 2000; 02:27 p.m.
James:
I use the 21mm. A lot. It is a marvellous little lens!
It is supersharp and has very very little distortion, to little for me
to get annoyed about. I wouldn't trade this for any other (wide) lens
in the world - and I have used quite a few...
Despite it's small size it delivers some incredible performance! The
optical engineers made the most out of the design benefits of a
rangefinder system. I have some really biting pictures from Old
Habana, Cuba, with this little fellow blown up to 25X38 cm on Fuji
Reala. Some other lenses may come close or be just as good but I don't
think you can squeeze significantly more detail out of the 24x36
negative anyway so arguing about which 21 is better (Leica or Zeiss
or...) is pretty pointless in this format. Enlargements bigger than
30X40 cm simnply doesn't look good from 24X36 anyway, at least the way
I see it. If this size doesn't satisfy you, you need MF, something
like the Mamiya 43mmL (roughly the same angle of view) for Mamiya7,
which I use as well. Now you can start talking about blowing up things
sky high... ;-)
The separate viewfinder is quite good. You do get more than you see on
the final frame, and there is some parallax error, especially in the
near focus distances. In the small leaflet accompanying the lens (or
was it the G2 manual?) you will find out more. I won't go in to it in
detail here as it is all in plain text in the manual but in general
the finder works quite well, and the parallax has never caused me any
teeth grinding grief. No grid/bright lines to help you keep it level
though. Concentrate on the terrain / horizon / buildings for keeping
it level. In my experience the finder fits well and sits "secure" in
the hotshoe. Still it doesn't hurt to be careful, I would hate to lose
mine.
In Habana/Hong kong I would often walk around with just the viewfinder
and scout the terrain before getting the camera out in shabby areas.
Handy.
Using the camera in manual focus mode can't be tricky. The depth of
field is deeeeeep and stopping down the lens and focusing to a
hyper-focal setting allows you to concentrate on shooting fast.
I have used this modus operandi on some occasions with great success.
I haven't used the 16mm Hologon but considering the slow aperture
(especially with the centerfilter attached) and very freaky angle of
view I doubt it is as versatile as the 21 which excels in a variety of
shooting circumstances. And the Rocky Horror price tag puts me off,
especially when you can get the 15mm Voigtländer in a G2 mount (true!)
for some 8-900$...
Tried to keep it short.
Henrik
Henrik Rundgren , Nov 14, 2000; 02:31 p.m.
Yeah.
About the finish of the lens. Get the cheap(er) one.
You can always spray paint it later.
Just cover the glass before doing this.
;-)
Henrik
Robert Goldstein
, Nov 14, 2000; 11:49 p.m.
James,
The 21mm Biogon is an awesome lens. I used it to take a
picture of the interior of the Basilica Notre Dame in Montreal.
This photo never fails to make people's jaws drop open.
There is significant parallax error for close subjects. In the
actual photo, subjects appear higher to the right of where they
do in the finder. I have heard of some users who do all of the
focusing using the accessory finder, but I have not tested it
myself. On my G2, the finder seems fairly secure when attached
to the camera.
FYI, Genesis Camera is offering the 21mm Biogon for $750. Of
course, this is a grey market version. I have found them to be
reliable and honest. You can contact them at genesis.com or via
the Amazon.com Z-shops (which gives you the added protection
of Amazon.)
Rick Dreher , Nov 16, 2000; 02:46 p.m.
Buy the lens, buy the lens, buy the lens.
I don't need to embellish upon the comments about the 21's quality-- it's a dazzling lens. I've got all the G primes other than the 16 (what's this about a Voightlander 15 w/ G mount?) and use the 21 50% of the time.
The finder is the source of some frustration. Put it on blindly or in a hurry and it's not hard to lose your grip and drop it. The parallax error is real, and IMHO Contax should supply an adjustable finder to deal with it (such creatures exist). Regardless, one soon comes to terms with using the finder to take advantage of what the lens is capable of. The suggestion of using preset manual focus is a good one, it speeds up composition and shooting a great deal (and does away with focus lock issues on shiny, close subjects).
I use a silver finish on a black body--it bothers me not one bit. Save the extra money for a thin filter or some good slide film--you'll want lots.
Buy the lens.
p.s. The hard case is pretty worthless in the field. I keep the 21 in one of the Contax fake leather pouches w/ the finder in a small, padded bag clipped on.
Al shaikh
, Nov 20, 2000; 05:12 a.m.
jeffrey warden , Dec 25, 2000; 04:00 p.m.
Lens is wonderful.
Hi James,
This is my favorite lens by far. Do be careful with the viewfinder though, as it will fall off the hotshoe. Mine did and was dented on a concrete pathway. Thankfully the viewfinder has a guard around the glass so the lens didn't get scratched.
Jeff
Mani Sitaraman
, Dec 25, 2000; 11:04 p.m.
I used to deal with Eli Kurland when he worked at Wall Street Photo and was a big (and early) proponent of the Rollei 6003/6008 cameras. He was always helpful and generous with his time, and was willing to lend lenses on a trial basis back then in the early 90s. Whether this was at his personal initiative or was store policy I don't know.
I understand he has started his own outfit-one hopes he has the same marketing leeway.
Joshua Daniels , Aug 23, 2001; 01:12 a.m.
For information on these lenses, please see: www.luminous-landscape.com/12mm.htm#Contax%20G
Christopher Chung , Dec 10, 2001; 02:59 p.m.
I love the classic Contarex Biogon 21mm F4.5 version more. I bought a Contarex Biogon 21/4.5 which converted into Leica M39 mount. I use it on my Bessa R and Leica M6 with M adapter with satisfactory result.
Clive Mealey , Dec 22, 2001; 01:15 p.m.
Buy the lens, you will LOVE it!
Claudio Boyks , Nov 12, 2002; 08:14 p.m.
I have had very positive experiences with Eli Kurland. Has his 2nd store now (had to move after 9/11 ruined the first one). Honest gentleman and can be trusted.
Keith Towers , Feb 06, 2005; 06:42 a.m.
Hi James,
My advice is buy the 21mm. It is an incredible lens at an affordable price. The only problems I have with it are: the cross hatch in the finder is not clear enough - I shoot a lot of seascapes and have to watch horizons, so I tend to use the black mask area at the top of the frame. The other problem is, when I've put it on, I don't want to take it off - just too damn lazy.
Because there is no parallax compensation with the 16mm, you may have trouble keeping unwanted stuff out of your shots. And of course, You can buy a lot of G2 kit for the price of a 16mm lens. If you need to use one for a shoot, it might be better to hire it.
Keith
Leslie Hancock 
, Mar 08, 2005; 12:54 p.m.
Since going almost entirely digital a while back, and having no sentimental attachment to the various uglies that go with chemical photography, I've toyed with the idea of selling my G2 kit. This winter I even made a move to get rid of it all via eBay, and did sell my 90mm Sonnar. But then I went into the city and shot a few rolls of B&W with the 21mm, which reminded me that, for the moment anyway, there's no digital equivalent to the G2/21mm combination. For that reason, and despite the ultra-sad demise of Contax, I'm going to hang onto the G2. The camera's often frustrating, but the little Biogon is a wonderful lens, pure and simple. And you can get one these days for a very reasonable price.
Web-res images can't do the lens justice, but FWIW here are a couple of photos from the day I mentioned: a large open space and a small open space.