Thomas Bergh , Oct 26, 2001; 06:52 a.m.
Hi !
I want to get grainy pictures without big enlargements 10/15 cm.
and using the whole negative. I´ve tried Tmax 3200 35mm in
rodinal 1/50 20° C 16 min. This method was recommended to
me but I didn`t find the grain large enough. Is there any way to
get large grain on small prints?
Volker Schier , Oct 26, 2001; 09:06 a.m.
The combination I commonly used for this purpose was Fomapan T800
(which was also sold as Paterson Acupan 800) in R09 1:20.
Unfurtonately the T800 is no longer made. Try TRIX in Rodinal 1:10 or
R09 1:20, this should give the effect you are looking for, or -- even
better -- Forte 400 or Foma 400. The results are tack sharp but VERY
grainy.
Ed Buffaloe
, Oct 26, 2001; 09:12 a.m.
The small prints caveat is the problem. Your best bet might be to
try printing only a small portion of your 35mm negative. You could
also use a Minox sub-miniature or half-frame 35mm camera. Or you
could try pushing Tri-X in Dektol, but in a small print I fear you
would still have finer grain than you are seeking. Finally, you could
try to reticulate your film by putting it in a very hot water bath to
see if the emulsion would start to crinkle.
Volker Schier , Oct 26, 2001; 09:17 a.m.
I just checked. Moersch Photochemie offers an interesting additive for
paper developers, which will produce very grainy looking prints from
"normal" negatives. They call it Lith E Check their website for it and
the availability.
http://www.moersch-photochemie.de/html_deutsch/online_workshop/online_
workshop_l3.htm
I have not tried the product, but it sounds interesting.
There are some dealers in Germany who will ship Moersch products
worldwide, one is Fotoimpex in Berlin.
Volker Schier , Oct 26, 2001; 09:19 a.m.
Reticulation unfortunately is no option with most films today. The
emulsion is hardened to an extent where it just does not work.
David Parmet , Oct 26, 2001; 09:19 a.m.
TriX at 320 in Rodinal 1:25 for 8 minutes.
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Grain the size of golf balls.
Michael Feldman , Oct 26, 2001; 10:55 a.m.
If David's advice doesn't suffice, then process the Tri-X normally
and then wash in 125 F water. Actually you switch to the high temp
water at any time after the developer.
WILHELM , Oct 26, 2001; 11:38 a.m.
Put your Tri-X into an oven and heat for 24 hours at 150 degrees F.
Cool prior to handling it. Develop normally in D-76 or Rodinal. The
older the film the better it works.
JAMES -- , Oct 27, 2001; 06:42 a.m.
any older emulsion film in dektol will give you the large grain you
are seeking. I process at 75 degrees F and get enormous grain.
ahmad hosni , Oct 27, 2001; 06:56 a.m.
I think paper grain is indispensible if you want grainy picture. Use
lith developer. I wish I can find a formula for a lith developer (or
that developer mentioned earlier)!