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Efke 25

David B , Jan 20, 2004; 02:26 a.m.

In my quest to locate Agfa APX 25, many photographers have told me to try Efke 25 because it is very similar. I love the way APX 25 looks and that is why I have spent so much time and money trying to acquire it.

Not having purchased any Efke 25 yet, I am wondering how to expose it and how to develope it. I have read that I should follow the same procedures as for APX 25, but I am unsure. With APX 25, I expose it at 12asa and develope it in Rodinal 1+100 for 15 minutes. Should I be doing the same with the Efke film?

Also, the J&C site shows dev times but does not show asa ratings.

One more thing, I live in Santa Fe NM and shoot most landscapes with a light yellow filter. How is this film going to react?

Anyway, any help is appreciated. I will be ordering some Efke 25 tomorrow and will be doing my own experiments but I would like to know what I might expect.

Thanks to all, david b


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Aki Dick , Jan 20, 2004; 06:07 a.m.

They have a web site with processing data:


Hans Beckert , Jan 20, 2004; 09:39 a.m.

I highly doubt you will find KB14 the equal of Agfapan 25. Really, Ilford Pan-F Plus is a superior product. The sharpness of the KB14 is inferior, despite its fine grain.

Garry D. Lewis , Jan 20, 2004; 10:00 a.m.

Having shot all three, agfa IFF(which morphed into 25) Pan F and Adox KB-14,in the past I respectfully disagree. Being obcessed with high speed films today, I must profess ignorence of Efke 25 and Pan F plus- so you may be right. But I'll have to see examples to be convinced.

Steve Allen , Jan 20, 2004; 11:40 a.m.

I like Efke 25. I shoot it at 12.5 ASA and develop in WD2D+ doe 8 min. Here's a shot I did with it.

Christine Falls - Mt. Rainier - Efke 25

Hans Beckert , Jan 20, 2004; 11:54 a.m.

The question is: KB14 (Efke 25) or Pan-F. I believe the Ilford is the better material overall.

David Goldfarb , Jan 20, 2004; 12:48 p.m.

I've seen some nice work done with Efke 25, but the tonality is nothing like APX 25. I suspect the spectral sensitivity is considerably different. APX 25 looks like it has more red sensitivity.

Bill Mitchell , Jan 20, 2004; 02:27 p.m.

You'll not need the yellow filter with EFKE 25. Although I still have a couple of bricks of AGFA 25 in the freezer, I shot last year's vacation with the EFKE. Developed in Rodinal 1+50 it was no match for the AGFA, but Per Valquartz tried it in PMK and swore that he can't tell the results from work done with his 5x7. I still think that if one can deal with the contrast, then Kodak Technical Pan developed in Technidol is the ultimate of present emulsions.

Barry Kenstler , Jan 20, 2004; 05:20 p.m.

I was surprised at how much more green sensitive the 25 and 50 Efke films were than other panchromatic emulsions. Compared to APX 25, foliage will be rendered noticeably lighter. The EFKE 25 may be somewhat more blue sensitive, so a yellow filter is a good idea. The EFKE emulsions are a bit softer than the AGFA emulsions in my experience; APX films are pretty tough.

Frank Schifano , Jan 20, 2004; 09:13 p.m.

I've not used either Efke KB-14 or Agfa APX 25 so I can't comment about either of these two films. They are just too darned slow for my taste. What I can tell you is that I have used PanF+ in 6x6 format to shoot some old streetcars and subway cars at a trolley museum. 11 x 14 prints from those negatives look better that the same size prints made from 4x5 negatives on HP5+.

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