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Up the Elbe to Prague

by Philip Greenspun; created 1993

Despite only having scratched the surface of an enigmatic city, I decided to move south to Prague by train, which is a wonderfully romantic journey. For about an hour one rolls through Eastern German countryside that might best be described as "Midwestern flat." In these first weeks of spring, the fields were green or carpeted with yellow flowers and many trees sported lovely white blossoms. The main difference from the U.S. was the absence of modern cars and farm equipment. Also the houses are rather old, brown, and decrepit. Rolling into Dresden was fascinating. Berlin, especially West Berlin, doesn't have large barren spaces and haphazard redevelopment. It is therefore a bit tough to imagine how thoroughly the city was bombed. Dresden, however, still looks like a wasteland with a few restored or at least remaining houses separated by large empty spaces. Some of those spaces are punctuated by tall plain apartment or office buildings, but the overall effect looks neither charming nor planned.

View from my train going along the Elbe River south from Berlin to Prague After bomb-scarred Dresden, the storybook valley of the Elbe was particularly beguiling. Our train traveled up this river for about three hours. The German side is studded with fine old houses and occasional towns nestled into side canyons. The walls of the valley are often quite steep, with sheer rock faces 75m high in some places. Eastern Germans bicycled along the road on the other bank and the river was ever so flat and lazy. Once we got to the Czech Republic, the river became much more industrial and houses lost their charm.

Prague's signature tourist clock, in the Old Town Square Germany is great preparation for Prague. First, although the Czechs heartily dislike Germans, one often encounters waitresses who speak German but not English (I was glad for once that I hadn't learned German too well; my accent and mistakes were a plus here). Second, the filthy cars and cigarette smoke in Germany toughened up my lungs for the even filthier cars driven by the Czechs. Third, German officialdom takes itself so seriously that the Czechs seem positively Italian by comparison. Fourth, the aggressive German drivers cushioned the blow of arriving in a city where the speed limit is 100 kph on all streets after 11:00 pm.

A canal in Prague A quick walk along the Vltava or Moldau (yes, the same river that inspired Smetana) bewitched me with unexpected beauty at every corner. A lot of unmarked buildings here have more grace to them than all of the tourist sights in Berlin combined. Furthermore, the whole atmosphere of the city is light. One sees lovers embracing and people eating on the streets, rare sights indeed in Berlin. London and Paris are wonderful, of course, but 95% of the people one sees in those cities are rushing off to do something productive. It always makes me feel lazy after a few days. In the center of Prague, however, one sees mostly tourists or very relaxed locals.

The Charles Bridge, Prague's ultimate hangout Upon reaching the famous Karlov Most (Charles Bridge), I knew that I'd found tourist heaven. Visa cash advances, pizza, guidebooks, sketch artists, schlock artists, money changers, all open for business on a Sunday evening. The medieval bridge is reserved for pedestrians and is thronged with deadbeats from many nations. They strum their guitars and sing Czech and American folk music. Imagine Harvard Square on steroids.

After a couple of hours in Prague, I'd already noticed what every other male tourist had: Czech women are stunning. They tend to be tall, blond, slender, have interesting features, and are a bit proud and aloof. They won't boldly meet your eye like women in France or Italy, but it would be unfair to call them cold. In fact, the unhappiest person in Prague is probably an ambassador who shall remain nameless. He's single. He's got the mansion, he's got the servants, he's got the big car. His misfortune is that the country he represents might be embarrassed if he were seen running around town with any of the locals. Anyway, you won't forget that Paulina Porizikova is Czech; every tenth woman here might be her sister.

All alone in Prague, I really appreciated how easy it was to meet people, especially other tourists. Everyone is relaxed and at his or her best. On my first evening stroll, I met two Czechs, seven Americans, and a smattering of Europeans. This is the world's best city for practicing languages. In just one day, I spoke English to the Dutch tourists, French to the French, German to get food, Italian to the Italians, even a bit of Hebrew to an Israeli and a few words of Japanese to a couple of stunned Osakans.

Inside the St. Nicholas Church (Prague) Despite spending most of my time socializing, I managed to see a lot of Prague's tourist treasures on my very first day. Praguers were early Protestants and prone to hurling Catholic officials out of windows or off of bridges. The Jesuits were sent in to awe and threaten the citizens back to Catholicism and dotted the city with Baroque splendors such as St. Nicholas. This church would have kept Moses busy for awhile; huge golden idols hover above each chapel and graven images cover the walls.

Prague Castle at sunset As I walked up to the renowned Prague Castle, from which Václav Havel continues a centuries-old tradition of Czech governance, the guard was changing with a flourish of brass. The castle is a collection of walled-in buildings on top of a hill, the most notable of which is St. Vitus Cathedral. My second favorite feature of the cathedral is an Art Nouveau stained glass window that was even financed by an insurance company and shows the psalm "Those who Sow in Tears Shall Reap in Joy."

Prague's cathedral My favorite part of the cathedral was something I'd have missed completely without the Cadogan guide: St. John Nepomuk's tongue. John was hurled into the river in 1383 for appointing an abbot against King Wenceslas IV's wishes. Three centuries later the Jesuits were casting about for a Prague-base saint and invented the following tale: that the King had demanded John relate what the Queen had confessed to him, and that John went to his death rather than betray her confidence. In 1715 a canonization committee exhumed John's body and found that his tongue was "throbbing with life" and still growing; he was canonized in 1729. Although there are numerous parts of dead people that are available for worship around Prague, the tongue was removed in the 1980's after further examination revealed that it was in fact a desiccated brain. John has a 1700 kg (as much as a full-size Chevrolet) solid silver tomb with beautiful Baroque figures of angels surrounding the swooning saint.


The Golden Lane, where Kafka lived for a summer (Prague) One of the biggest draws of the Prague castle is the Golden Lane, lined with tiny colorful houses. They didn't do much for me, not even one where Kafka lived for four months (he spent his whole life in Prague so that practically every other building has some Kafka story). The house was rented by his sister Ottla, who was exempted from wartime anti-Jewish laws because of her German husband. After her sisters and their husbands were hauled off to the Lodz ghetto, she became less sold on Aryan culture and divorced her husband. Ottla was sent first to Theresienstadt, then volunteered to escort a children's train to Auschwitz where she died.

Prague's Old Town Square I walked down the hill to the Old Town Square--armed with my Cadogan guide to Prague--and found it rich in history. Here was the balcony from which the communist state was announced and then cheered every year thereafter, there was the place where Protestant nobles were beheaded, along the east edge was the church where Tycho Brahe is entombed. The square looks peaceful today, but it has been the site of numerous bloodbaths. The most recent was May 8, 1945, a week after Hitler's suicide and the same day people in Paris and New York were celebrating V-E day. Prague was actually the last European battlefield of WWII. Three days earlier, Prague had risen against the Nazis and, in part of a battle that left 5000 Czechs dead, the Germans obliterated one wing of the town hall with a tank. It was two more days before the Russians liberated the town (US forces could have gotten there earlier, but stood idle so as not to breach the Yalta agreement).

My next stop was the old Jewish quarter containing a few remains of a community dating back at least to the 10th century. Jews were spread out on both sides of the river originally, but in 1179 the Church announced that Christians should avoid contact with Jews, by either moating or walling them in. Jews were locked in at night and all through Easter/Passover. Despite some pogroms and banishments, the Prague ghetto was a center of mysticism and Jewish thought. In 1784, Emperor Joseph II opened the ghetto and Jews with money or ability moved out (much as middle class blacks abandoned U.S. inner cities in the 1960's, leaving them today with just half their 1960 population). The ghetto became a sparsely-inhabited slum and nearly all the old buildings were razed to make room for broad streets and Art Nouveau buildings. Only six synagogues, the town hall, and a cemetery were spared and these ended up being selected by Hitler for a postwar "Exotic Museum of an Extinct Race."

The Jewish cemetery, a staple of Prague tourism Everyone had told me how great the cemetery was, with its tombstones practically piled on top of one another. Consequently, it was a disappointment. Not only did it look just as I'd imagined, but it was packed with Italian and French tourists. Unlike the Germans, the Czechs have developed their Jewish quarter into a major tourist attraction and the resulting lack of solitude inhibits quiet reflection.

The Pinkasova synagogue, whose walls were painted with the names of 77,297 Czech Jews killed by the Germans (rubbed out by the Communists and repainted in 1993) Within the cemetery is the Pinkasova synagogue. After the war, someone painted the walls with the names, birthdates, and deathdates of the 77,297 Czech Jews killed by the Germans. The Communists didn't take very good care of Hitler's Jewish museum and this synagogue was no exception. After the Yom Kippur War, they ripped out the names and even installed some anti-Israel exhibits in this area. Artists are currently painstaking painting the names back in.

Although I didn't see the museum containing exhibits of children's art from concentration camps (it was closed for "technical reasons"--this is a popular expression in Prague museumdom but I never figured out what it meant), the Nazi collection of Jewish stuff from all over Europe was nothing to write home about. Let's face it: the prohibition on idolatry and the sheer poverty of European Jewry prevented them from ever making anything very interesting.

In the evening, I met Rebecca, Becky, Michelle, and Angela (all Americans flexing their Delta Airlines employee benefits) at a marionette version of Don Giovanni. This combines two big Prague traditions: Don Giovanni, which was premiered here, and puppetry. It was fun if you knew the story well and didn't mind expressions that were, well, wooden. Being in the company of four attractive women wasn't bad either, although Rebecca was just recovering from having her wallet stolen (this is a familiar lament among Prague tourists).

Catholic officials were hurled from these windows and either (1) sprouted wings and were saved by the Virgin Mary (according to the Church) or (2) landed in a dungheap (according to eyewitnesses). Prague has been the scene of many defenestrations. I spent the next day lazily roaming through Prague's innumerable parks and gardens and ended up back at the castle. My favorite part of the castle is the window from which two Catholic officials were hurled by angry noblemen. The Church maintains that the Virgin Mary came down with wings and flew them to safety; eyewitnesses say that they landed in a dungheap. I had a long conversation with a 50ish Czechwoman in the tourist information office. She was sick and tired of people confusing her wonderfully advanced country with such backwaters as Poland. In fact, she maintained that Czechs were better educated in science and technology than Americans. I conceded that their subways The Czech Republic is filled with technology that works and is built with taste, e.g., this subway station and trams were remarkably efficient, but honesty compelled me to note the unfortunate resemblance between Czech cars and American lawnmowers.

My next encounter was with 25 Italian schoolgirls on their senior trip abroad. You don't know the meaning of exuberance until you've met 25 18-year-old girls who are thrilled to discover that an American speaks their language. They surrounded me and my head was spinning from trying to remember my Italian, remember their names, and look at them all at once.

In the evening, I had dinner with Yves, Fanny and Corinne, three refined Bretons. Fanny and Corinne pretended to consider our opinion, but it was clear which sex was going to choose the restaurant. They picked an established place that was actually listed in their guidebook. Such places generally have the rude service the predates the revolution and we were not disappointed. The waiter was so curt that we just had to laugh. Dinner conversation was relaxed and mostly in English. That is something I really like about the French I've met: if there is one English speaker in a crowd they will all speak English, even to each other, out of politesse.

A perfect April morning heralded the day that best typifies my experience in Prague. I sallied forth to the main train station in hopes of retrieving my bike. Taking a bike with you on a German train is very difficult and getting it across an international border is impossible; the bike must be shipped separately. It turned out that I was importing my bike to the Czech Republic, and that I had to go to the customs office. Of course, the ten people in front of me had stacks of documents for importing cars, radioactive medical isotopes, etc. I stood in line for 45 minutes. It is incredible sometimes to see the two cultures here. One is the usual Western tourist culture, which lubricates a smooth journey from the airport to your downtown hotel, then out to dinner and sightseeing. The other is the old imperial bureaucracy of which Kafka wrote so eloquently. This culture flourished under the Communist regime and is alive and well at the train station: no one thought to separate ordinary tourists with a single bag to claim from businessmen importing tens of thousands of dollars of stuff.

In a country as exotic as the Czech Republic, almost any situation can be educational, and this one proved to be rather fortuitous. Behind me was Arnost, a Czech architect who had applied for foreign travel every year for sixteen years under the Communist regime. Finally, in 1984, he was given permission to travel to Denmark to see buildings. He stayed there and has been working as an architect ever since. Unfortunately, recently the market for architects has gone sour. "My boss told me that there wasn't even enough room for Danish architects these days and that I would have to leave." I told him that I'd always thought of Scandinavians as having such well-ordered societies. "They probably did, but as soon as a lot of Eastern Europeans arrived, prejudice developed quickly." How had he adapted to Danish culture? "I wanted to get married, but most Danish women live only for themselves; they aren't ready to take care of a family. There's isn't much of a Czech community; we tend to melt into the surrounding culture. Most of my friends were actually Polish immigrants."

We also chatted with the friendly medical isotope importer who ducked outside for a cigarette. Attitudes toward smoking here are very different from Germany. First of all, Czechs seem to observe "no smoking" signs. Second, it seems to be rude here to smoke in front of non-smokers. Finally, Germans think cigarette smoke is positively healthful, but this fellow said he never smoked inside his house so as not to expose his children.

When Arnost and I got to the front of the line, we were told that our bikes were on the other side of town at the Holesovice station. I kept my good humor, but Arnost was outraged that his home country could be so inefficient. I said that he'd been spoiled by Denmark and perhaps could not live happily here after all, especially on the $300/month that he was expecting to be paid.

When we got to Holesovice, the baggage office had arbitrarily closed for lunch (people get up at 5:00 and start work at 6:30 so this should have come as no surprise). We toured around the upper floors of the station to find someone in authority, but everyone told us we would just have to wait. By the time we got back downstairs, the office was magically open again and we presented our tickets. The man said that we should have gotten a stamp back at the main station and that we'd have to go back. Arnost pleaded with him in Czech and somehow our bikes were set free. Mine was in a box padded out with excess clothing and weighed about 25 kg. Getting it home on the metro and then up five flights of stairs was enough to make me regret having brought the bike from America in the first place.

After assembling the bike, I headed down Sokolska Street, a one-way four-lane city street that the Czechs somehow regard as a superhighway and over the Nuselsky Most, a large modern bridge about 1 km long spanning a dramatic valley filled with old houses. Just to be spinning along the street with a blue sky overhead and a fine wind in my face made me forget all of the travails associated with schlepping the bike.

The Vysehrad castle would have been a rather hot and tedious excursion on foot, but was marvelous on the bike. In America, someone would have thought to put up a "no bikes" sign, but there aren't many bikes here yet and restrictions seem to be few. I rode down the hill to Plzenska where I bought apples and, I am ashamed to admit it, a meal at McDonald's. This was my first stop at McDonald's during this entire European trip. I justified it by saying that it would be a cultural experience to see how McDonald's and Czech culture mix. The result is just like one of the drug-money-laundering McDonald's in Miami: prices are low, the food is greasy, and nobody speaks English.

I then rode up to Mozart's villa and the falling-apart stadium complex. The Communists used to have bizarre synchronized gymnastics in the stadium, the world's largest, with 160,000 performers and 220,000 spectators. The stadium shares a hilltop with a model Eiffel tower and a variety of innocent diversions such as a mirror maze. Heading back toward the castle I was distracted by Hanneke and Elske, two Dutch sisters who invited me to join them in a cafe. Weren't they happy to be in a city where everyone is smiling? "We were just saying to each other how unhappy people here look compared to Amsterdam. Your standards are warped after three weeks in Germany," they laughed.

After parting from Elske and Hanneke, which I was indeed loath to do, I biked downhill to the Karlov Most where I spied the best-looking mountain bike I'd seen in Europe, a superdeluxe aluminum Scott with Rock Shox and XT components. Ivo, the proud owner, makes his living doing commercial art for advertising and lives to mountain bike and paint fine art. I asked him where I could find a bike part and he responded by saying "follow me." Ivo took off down the packed-with-pedestrians bridge at about 15 kph. His if-you-don't-like-the-way-I-drive-get-off-the-sidewalk biking style did not seem to surprise many Czechs. After all, this is the way they drive their cars.

Speaking of cars, I was shocked by the number of brand-new Mercedes on the streets of Prague. It was sickening enough in America to see a doctor drive by in a hunk of sheet metal worth four years salary to the average worker. I wondered how Czechs feel when they see a businessman get so fat from just a few years of the free market that he can afford the same car, worth about 50 times the average annual salary here.

Leona, the first Czech whom I met in Prague I rode home to shower and then had dinner with Leona, a 19-year-old Czech from the countryside. We'd met on the Karlov Most my first night in Prague where she told me that she'd come here to learn English and work as a secretary. Taking her out to dinner I felt a bit like George Darrow in Edith Wharton's The Reef. Darrow is a 35ish American who goes to Paris to meet a woman he loves. He gets a telegram while on the train telling him not to come, but he has arranged time off work and hence decides to go anyway. On the train, he meets Sophy Viner, a beautiful 20-year-old who is going to visit friends. Sophy's friends have left Paris so Darrow puts her up in his hotel and starts to show her around the city. Things that seem uninteresting to his jaded eyes look wondrous to hers and her enthusiasm proves infectious.

Leona had never had Chinese food, so I took her to the nearby Peking restaurant. There were no Chinese in evidence, either as staff or customers, and some of the food was barely recognizable as Chinese (they served rolls, for example). If I'd been alone, it would have been a disappointment, but I had fun teaching Leona to eat with chopsticks and learning about her world. She gets up at 5:00, is working at 6:30, and is ready to swim or run by 2:30. Leona spends her afternoons playing guitar or singing folksongs with her friends. In the evenings she attends English class. Leona didn't have anything nasty to say about anyone or anything, not even about the Russians who made her learn their hellishly complex language for eight years. Yet when I told her how happy I was to be able to speak some German, she said flatly "I don't like Germans." Evidently the numerous German tourists are not doing much to heal old wounds.

Towards the end of the evening, I didn't feel like Darrow anymore. Due to my age and privileged birth I had a wider experience of the world, but Leona had the absolute authority of a beautiful woman. I felt like a Bonfire of the Vanities Master of the Universe in the Chinese restaurant, like an equal partner in the hip cafe afterwards, and like a bewildered child at the end of the evening.

If you give this Bambino di Praga some jewels, you will allegedly be rewarded in this life "You'll pry my bike from my cold, dead hand"--that's how I felt on my last day in Prague. Not only was I able to ride through 20 miles of "real Prague" neighborhoods and visit an obscure Renaissance palace, but I even biked a downtown walking tour from the Cadogan guide that included the famous Bambino di Praga. The Bambino is a wax infant Jesus said to perform miracles for those with cash to spare. The infant is pretty well fixed, being particularly venerated throughout the Hispanic world, and has scores of fine costumes from all over the world (even one from Communist North Vietnam).

More tourists would be well-advised to stop and worship the Bambino: just outside the church, a Frenchwoman stopped me to ask, in excellent English, directions to her embassy. She'd had her money and papers stolen. I got off my bike and accompanied her for the two blocks.

On the Karlov Most, I met the Italian girls again, which was like getting an extra dose of sunshine. Ariana had found a picture-with-a-python entrepreneur mid-bridge and was posing with a five-meter-long snake around her neck. Knowing that they were all the same age, I was struck by the contrast between Christina, mature and seductive, and some of the others, slight and childlike. They demanded to know why I wasn't married. I said "I'm waiting to meet the right Italian girl."

While attempting to hold two sausage sandwiches, one Coke, and one mountain bike, I was greeted familiarly by two Danish girls. "Do we know each other?" I asked. They said "Of course, you are the German teacher from our hotel!" I laughed "Ich spreche Deutsche aber nicht zehr gut!" They insisted "you aren't a teacher of German, but a teacher from Germany." Only after I took off my helmet were they convinced that I wasn't from Germany. "That's better that you are American anyway; we really don't like Germans very much." I wondered how Europeans could ever truly unite given so many old and new cross-border wounds.

As the red glow of the sunset melted the Baroque palaces along the Moldau, I met Hanneke and Elske at the Czech Philharmonic. Three dollars bought a ticket in the 15th row of the orchestra, in between two friendly attractive Czechwomen who translated the program notes for me. When the orchestra came out, I exclaimed that it was all white males. A retired Czech gentleman sitting behind us smiled with satisfaction: "that is why they are good." Despite their politically incorrect composition, they played a challenging program as well as my own Boston Symphony Orchestra. The acoustics in the elegant hall are marvelous, mostly because is has only half as many seats as the newer American halls and everyone is close to enough to get good sound.

Afterwards, we three went to the main square to sit in a cafe and chat about the concert, culture and American vs. European life. On the way, I mentioned that Dvorak had so loved the New York subway that he refused to ride in his chauffeured limousine. Elske asked me if it was true that only poor people ride the NY subway now. I said "yes, but in New York anyone making less than $100,000/year is considered poor."

Elske is one of those women who drives men to distraction with sheer indifference. Let a woman give a man her heart and soul unreservedly and he'll soon take her for granted. But if a woman holds herself back, a man will go to extreme lengths to bring a sparkle to her eyes. He'll do this day after day because every time he succeeds he gets a feeling of accomplishment.

Elske is a hard-working medical student and hadn't ever been to the U.S. She disarmingly asked "Why would I want to visit the U.S.?" I was nonplused. I'd met people who hated the U.S. I'd met people who loved the U.S. But I'd never met anyone who was simply indifferent to the country that draws more tourists and immigrants than any other. I'm not sure if this reflects my American or my male bias, but my first thought was of size: "Hey, we've got three lakes that are substantially larger than Holland!"

Images of Disneyworld, the canyons of the Southwest, bears in Alaska, vast art museums, Henry James's Boston, Vermont foliage, New York skyscrapers, San Francisco vistas, the Rocky Mountains, and the Oregon Coast flashed before my eyes. It was just like watching a TV station sign off the air except that everything looked unimpressive and deflated under Elske's cold, unwavering gaze. Rather than try to stretch words to describe the beauty and variety I'd just seen inside my eyelids, I moved to an intellectual plane.

I told Elske and Hanneke that Americans are curious about Europe because that is a source of so many of our cultural ideas. By the same token, Europe now gets many ideas from America and they might be curious to see the source. For example, America was the most thoroughly middle class society for parts of the 19th century and a lot of European modernity is modeled after the States. Big city life and problems came first to America and then to Europe.

We also discussed chauvinism and nationalism. They proudly noted that they weren't chauvinistic about things Dutch. I said "So what? I'm not chauvinistic about Massachusetts. You are chauvinistic about Europe, which you see as the center of things and the only really interesting place, but not about your tiny little corner. Americans, if you leave out a few Texans and Californians, are not chauvinistic about their little states, but do feel there is a richness to the entire U.S."

It occurred to me that Europeans don't have a visceral feel for the multiculturalism of the U.S. They can get a tourist's appreciation of authentic cultures quickly, but don't have the day-to-day contact with watered-down cultures that Americans have. I said that seeing my Chinese friends every day and learning what concerns they and their families have teaches me different things about Chinese culture than a tourist trip to China might.

My sales pitch wasn't effective, for Elske would not consider visiting the U.S. Instead, she was going to Tanzania for the summer to play Albert Schweitzer. I was stunned. It is so easy for an American to forget that, in Europe, doctors are paid ordinary salaries and people study medicine because they have a genuine desire to help others.

Feeling that I hadn't sufficiently beaten them up about how small Holland was, I proceeded to question Elske's utopian feminism, which is not quite as unfashionable in Holland as in the U.S. She said that in fifty years there would be no differences between men and women. I said that was absurd and that women were more frequently "feet on the ground" types, content with simple things if they did the job. It was men who were likely to have crazy, risky ideas. "Would a woman have said `let's take an enormously heavy bridge and just hang it from two steel wires'?" I asked. "A woman might have noted that there were plenty of lower risk bridge designs and that, in any event, one could take a boat across or just stay on one side. Women are right, of course, as illustrated when the Tacoma Narrows suspension bridge collapsed shortly after it was completed. However, society only advances when crazy ideas are refined into better ways of doing things." This kind of sexism would have gotten me knifed back home in Cambridge, but Elske took it all with good humor and we parted in fine spirits.

Between talking past midnight, disassembling my bike, packing, and having to get up at 5:30, I only got a few hours of sleep. Putting the bike on the plane was far easier than in Boston and things went fairly smoothly until I tried to change my crowns back to dollars. One can't do this without the original receipt from the first change. However, as I tried to auction the money off among the departing passengers, the duty free shop manageress took pity on me and opened up. I was the first person in Czech history to buy duty free goods with crowns, as this was the first day that they were accepting Czech currency and the shop did not officially open until 8am. My bag swelled with about 2 kg. of Lindt chocolate.

The two-hour flight to Heathrow blossomed into a six-hour ordeal thanks to fog and running out of gas while circling. Shelly, sitting in the aisle seat, entertained me with his 38-year-old single Jewish New Yorker's perspective: "Eight million people in NY, eight million stories. Eight million people in LA, one story." Shelly quit his job at a big NY law firm because he couldn't stand the people he was meeting, especially the women who'd been reduced to materialism and savagery by having to live the NY yuppie life. "I'm despairing of finding a sane North American Jewish woman, except among the orthodox. The secular ones have been on too many dates with dentists. They become so starved for experience that they run off on wild flings in Italy or into bad marriages."

At Heathrow, I had to dodge crowds of wool-suited executives railing at hapless airline employees for ruining their million-dollar deals. I flew standby on the last flight to JFK and then standby again on the last flight to Boston, arriving at my front door 25 hours after getting into the taxi in Prague.

Epilogue

A couple of weeks after I returned, I showed slides from the trip at my house. My friend Ted brought a couple visiting from Stuttgart and they kept their opinions to themselves until he was driving them home: "We liked the slides, but it would be unthinkable in Germany to speak about the Nazi period except in the most serious terms." Ted said he didn't find the tone inappropriate and a discussion ensued. Frustrated that he wasn't getting his point across, the professor said "Well, what if there had been a Jew present?" When Ted told him that he was Jewish, that at least 20 of the 50 guests were Jewish, and that the host/photographer/narrator was Jewish, the Germans were stunned into silence.

It seemed almost laughable on one level, particularly since one of my friends is Orthodox and was wearing a yarmulke. On another level, it seemed that complete ignorance of Jewish culture would be the natural consequence of Nazi persecution and the Holocaust. (The Jewish population of Germany reached its peak in 1920 at 500,000. By 1937, 365,000 Jews remained and only 17,000 were left at the end of the war.) It struck me then how much Jews and other minorities were The Other in Europe.

In America, a television portrayal of a homeless man in New York City provokes sympathy from 90% of the viewers. "I might be a racist and that guy is black, but he's an American and he sleeps in the street. We should do something to help him," is a typical response. Starving Somalis or the Coast Guard packaging up a bunch of Haitians into a shipping container excites very little sympathy: "There are a lot of wretched people on this planet and we can't help all of them." What's the difference? The Haitians and Somalis aren't part of our family.

Just because we're a family doesn't mean there isn't hatred. In fact, no matter how racist one is, one probably has hated one's sister more than any abstract person of another race. But even if you hated your sister more than anyone else in the world, would you put her in a Concentration Camp?

Minorities in Europe, however, are not protected by any feeling of family. A few times I asked good-natured open-minded Germans whether they thought the woman on the subway was correct, i.e., was it possible for a 2nd or 3rd-generation Turkish immigrant to become "truly German" in any sense? The idea was so absurd to them that they looked bewildered at first. None of them felt the Turks were inferior, but none felt any kind of bond with them either. Nor is this phenomenon restricted to Germany. I met a young Danish university student who deplored the anti-immigrant prejudice of his fellow Danes. "Of course, many of these immigrants make matters worse by not converting to Christianity. I'm not a believer myself, but that is the religion of our country." Third World countries are no better; Muslim Arab immigrants to Muslim Arab Egypt can expect to wait 125 years to get citizenship.

The most valuable thing I learned visiting Berlin and Prague was an appreciation for what I'd always taken for granted: a person can show up on our shores and expect to become "one of the family" after a few years.

The End

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Diaa M , December 22, 1996; 10:49 P.M.

I would like to thank you for your comments which is of big help to some one like me going to Praha in few days . I do agree with you that a Chezk woman is proud in a way ,well in away after all i think they are nice people , i forget to tell you that i am immigrant to US a while ago and i am originally from Egypt . and in reference to the Danish Student he mentioned that you will need 125 years to get the citizenship of Egypt i Think it will take around 120 years ! Just kidding it is normally 5 years as here in the US Again thanks for your story , Sincerely, Dr. Diaa M , MD

Jack W. Ingram , January 25, 1997; 05:30 A.M.

I found your article took a very interesting perspective and was very insightful. I lived in germany for a year as an an exchange student during my junior year of high school. It was in 93-94. After living in europe for a year, and being able to travel to diferent locales such as Prague and Berlin, I had very similiar expierences as your own. Germans seem to be very huffy people. Almost snobbish in a way. I lived in Bremen, way up in northern germany, and the people were cold for the most part. Once however, I was able to gain enough of the language to function as part of the society, things changed. To some extent it was me, I had adapted to my new surroundings, but at the same time germans started treating me like i was a german. Of course by that time it was hard to tell the diference. they seem to treat their own, totally diferent than say an outsider. It takes them am extremely long time to open up, and develop friendships. When they do, it seems to be for good. You don't have as much of the superficialness that you encounter here in the states. It was an extremely big change coming from a little town in eastern oregon! Anyway, thanks for sharing your expierences. It was great reading, and the pics brought back a lot of memories. I've been to almost every site you were at. All the ones in Berlin. Thanx again!!

Sincerely, Jack Ingram student

Stuart Toepke , May 18, 1997; 11:08 P.M.

I read your "travelog" with great interest. As an American student who is considering traveling Europe, it was helpful to see a different perspective other than the touristy pictures many people get. The bit about "old wounds" such as those between the Czechs and the Germans, was an interesting perspective. I happen to be descened from Germans and Czechs so it's cause for reflection. My anscestors came to America in the late 1800's. Undoutedly, the prejudice in the Old Country existed then. But today, with me, these things are gone. I am both Cezh and german, so how could I "hate" myself? Kind of an interesting perspective. Your perspective about the European Union was also interesting. It is indeed a good question to ask... "How can an union be successful amidst the old wounds?" (or something to that effect). I basically see any kind of lasting "union" among the peoples of this earth as utterly impossible without people turning their attention from themselves, from the money, the materialism, the hatred, etc, to the only one and true source of redemption and peace for mankind... God.

Later,

Stuart Toepke

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Uwe Wolfgang Radu , July 11, 1997; 04:12 P.M.

The main impression I got from reading Phil's travel narrations was of how much he himself reflects the European--and in particular German--attitudes he so decries. He divides Germans into two kinds: the ones that cannot live in a place not exactly like Germany, and their polar opposites. In fact, Phil himself--as an American--is very much part of that first kind; the way in which he so misses the familiar American amenities (endless store hours, Wal-Mart-like availability of every conceivable consumer item under one roof, etc. etc.) completely debases his arguments. Like many Americans, he would like the whole world to be like Disney World: keep the castles and the superficial local distinguishing marks and such, but for heaven's sake put in a McDonald's, and the last person out at night please turn off the lights. Lest we forget, Europe is not America's lifesize amusement park where everyone goes for summer break, although it often seems that way.

As far as the "erroneous" German impression that America is one huge filthy place with a few interesting sights here and there: what's you point, Phil? Ever been south of New England? Ever seen that huge expanse in between the east and west coasts called America? There's so much mind-numbing "beauty" on the drive from Tennessee to Colorado (or from Minnesota to Louisiana) that you can hardly wait to get it over with. The change in scenery is so slow that you have to travel a thousand miles to see what you can see on a day trip in Europe. Besides, while New England might be kept up pretty well, much of the coutry is one huge mess. I'm sick of the sight of McMeals littering the sides of roads everywhere you go. And how about that mother of all housing, the trailer? The trailer has contributed more to the decline of America than most other things. For any European landing in Miami and driving through the South it is hard to shake the image of the American shanty town. So what that we have Manhattan and San Francisco, the ultimate symbols of modern urbanization? How do they exhonerate the rest of the country? The typical American city has no soul. St. Louis has the big arch, but take that away and what's left? Los Angeles has Hollywood, but the rest of the city? Atlanta, Indianapolis, Miami, Oklahoma, Phoenix and so on--all clones of the same model.

For every one of those starry-eyed Europeans that come over and never want to leave again, I know several that live in a state of constant culture shock. You compare the Wannsee to Lake Tahoe--if it were just off Manhattan I might say fair enough; but the thing is in the middle of bloody nowere, hardly a fair comparison. As a European that was first transplanted (by his cold-blooded parents, against his will) to Australia and then to America, nothing frightens and disgusts me more than the McCity--that original blueprint of the American City locked up somewhere in Washington together with the original pound, yards stick and imperial gallon. By the way, Australia must have gotten a hold of it at some point in time, because their cities look frighteningly similar.

OK, this is exactly the kind of damaging poison one shouldn't spew forth, but it was brought on by yet another American tourist visiting Europe and complaining about how it wasn't like America. Too many of my friends here in the US went through exactly the same motions, and I'm sick of it. There's more to life than 24-hour convenience stores, $1.50 a gallon gas and cheesy Hollywood movies in English. And maybe Americans emigrate less than anybody else because they don't know better? After all, the ones that do visit abroad are a relatively small minority. So if Germans turn up their noses at America, at least they come visiting anyway, whereas many Americans don't even know there's anything else out there.

On a final note, adressing the issue of sour Germans: to a certain extent I understand what you're talking about. But then again, nobody has accused the Brits of overt exhuberance either. Or most other Germanic countries--with the possible exception of the Swedish who consume so much Vodka to ward off the cold that they can't help but be happy. And then again, what excactly have the Germans had to be happy about since WWII? You grow up as a German kid learning that your grandparents and their kids between them and the two world wars they concocted were responsible for decimating a sizeable portion of the human race. Not exactly the kind of thing for a happy show-and-tell session, or standup comedy of any kind (although Rush Limbaugh might disagree). Let's face it, little Hans might be excused for not growing up to be Jerry Seinfeld or John Cleese. Although plenty of Germans I know do enjoy Monty Python well enough--with the front door locked and the curtains pulled, of course.

You will find that as new generations grow up, they will give less and less of a damn about the past, and consequently they might become happier and happier (I should hope). I personally feel absolutely not responsible and carry no burden regarding the shabby German track record in this century. Certainly not any more than a Tennessee youth does about the slaves his family owned a century or so ago. You claim some credit for America not having started any world wars and not having invaded any countries; the American Indians and Africans might disagree on some of the finer points in that argument. Besides, who but America itself did not smirk at the US embargo on South Africa a mere few decades after the last "Whites Only" sign was painted over in the South? That was absolutely exactly akin to Germany punishing Bosnia for ethnic cleansing, yet how ridiculous that would seem to the world.

OK, this turned out way too long, but then it's kind of hard to retort to four short stories in one paragraph. Happy reading, and you know where I live :-)

Uwe Wolfgang Radu

Elizabeth Penland , October 30, 1997; 02:36 P.M.

This is a comment for all 4 parts

Picky factual minutiae: You can certainly rent subtitled videotapes in Berlin, even at many chain stores. In my experience, West Germans do have much better English on average than Americans do German (or any other foreign language, for that matter). It was not only the Prussian aristocracy that rejected Hitler in Berlin, but equally the factory workers. Berlin was a hotbed of labor and radical leftist politics. The larger issue: Cultural arrogance and categorical rejection begins at home, for Americans, as well as for Germans. As loathe as I am to defend either group, being American and having lived 5 years total since 1990 in Berlin, I nonetheless find the author guilty of the provinciality and even cultural discrimination of which he accuses the (west) Germans, and having spent my time in Berlin reprimanding the Germans who were snotty, narrow-minded and stereotypical about Americans, I guess it's time to pick up the cause of the Germans here. I'm tired to death of the old "my culture is biggers than yours" debate and wish that both sides would put themselves as observers and their own national foibles into perspective. Beautiful site, lovely photos, shame about the Kraut baiting.

On a related note: "One of the family"? Like sodomizing Haitian immigrants, beating black motorists and shooting Japanese exchange students and German tourists?

P.S. Only an American would deduce general ways of life sanctioned from shopping habits! (ever think about labor politics in a differently regulated system)

Daniel Curtin , May 10, 1998; 03:02 A.M.

I am just an "ugly American" who recently toured Berlin. While everyone was friendly and helpful, I found few English speaking persons, which was fine, as I got around fine by myself. Nobody was rude and they tried to help where they could. The city was splendid and while I agree with the author about how the Germans seem to ignore the Nazi past and had to go out of my way to even find any historical evidence of it (The museum of Terrors exhibit - the former SS and Gestapo HQ site), I found the architecture interesting and the contrasts of old and modernism refreshing. I do not take the cynical view of the author about the architecture, culture or the people. There exists a vitality in the city in 1998 that may not have existed in 1993 when he was there, and the Germans seem proud of their rise from the ashes of faschism and stalinism and their "new" republic. I did not hear any predudice against Americans or any other race. There seems to be more tolerism and multiculterism in Berlin than I expected to see, and it is encouraging to see the "glass is half full" mentality that seeems to pervade in Berlin these days. How long must they keep apologizing for the past???? Why not look forward?

While I think that they do not have to have Nazi sites as the majority of every tour, there should be some historical tours availble that explore that past in perspective as it only spanned 12 years). Five years after the author was in Berlin, you do not see any more traces of the Russian occupation or the British or American either for that matter. Germany is reverting back to Germany as it should be - GERMAN!

My ancestors were Germanic, and it is good to see the motherland get back some respect it deserves after it has rebuilt itself even after all the foreigners tried to shape it in their own image. (I did not find McDonald's on every corner in West Berlin, which was great).

The Germans are the same as the French, they want to preserve German culture, but they differ from the French in that they are not "in your face about it". They are just somewhat indifferent to other countries, not hostile as the French seem to be many times.

The author needs to "lighten up some". I would like to see a follow up on Berlin in 1998 by the same person to see if he saw any difference from 1993.

Susan Quinn , September 15, 1998; 07:21 P.M.

I'm troubled that the author doesn't seem to see the irony in his moralistic criticisms of the dehumanizing evils of capitalism, Nazism, and racial and ethnic prejudice on the one hand and his repeated comments on the physical attractiveness of the women he encounters on the other. People are not paintings; evaluating them in terms of physical appearance is dehumanizing. Of course I'm not claiming that what the author has done is equivalent to the Nazis shipping people off the gas chambers. But I, who drive a `71 VW bug, am far less irritated by the sight of a doctor driving a Mercedes than I am at reading this kind of writing about women.

Simon Templar , September 22, 1998; 11:30 P.M.

In response to the comment just above mine: "Ein Mann ein Wort. Eine Frau ein Wvrterbuch." Philip, your friend said it best!

Jon Reinberg , March 25, 1999; 05:38 P.M.

While I agree with most of the comments above in regards to America's complete lack of culture and lack of beauty, I do not agree with the statement that Germans should forget about the past.

Forgetting about the past is the quickest and easiest way to follow the oft-stated proverb: History repeats itself. The Germans should not sit at home crying and depressed for their actions in WWII - but they shouldn't completely forget about it either. The more the memory pervades, the less the chance of something as terrifically awful as the Holocaust has to repeat. By putting up memorials and museums detailing the German exploits in treachery in WWII, as well as detailing the revival of Germany and the new democratic state that it upholds, Germans can establish a sense of nationalism that won't be rooted in racism but rather rooted in a philoshophy that education and civilized progress makes humans better.

Just two cents from an 18 year old Israeli/American teenager.

Andreas Tretow , June 01, 1999; 02:48 P.M.

Thank you Jon. But even putting up a memorial seems to be a difficult project in Berlin. For years politicians are arguing about a Holocaust-Memorial near the Reichstag (Now called Deutscher Bundestag-Plenarsaal, the House of Parliament). In the mean-time, the Shoah-Foundation put up an archive with interviews of survivors of the Holocaust, which is in my opinion the best idea. Another good idea is to read Anne Frank4s Diary, which is part of our standard school-reading. How can anyone understand what happended here in Europe by looking at a monument with "You shall not murder !" (in Hebrew !!!) engraved ? (The discussion about this particular memorial is so mind-numbing in itself, that one does not want to hear or read about it anymore. So the politicians accomplish exactly what Philip is saying about Germans: I4d rather not talk about it !)

As for Philip4s tour comments about Berlin: One can only look at old photos of Berlin to see how beautifull and alive this city ones was. Today Berlin seems to become just another big city with a couple of interesting sites usually not featured in a tour-guide.

Mark Houlder , August 18, 1999; 11:50 A.M.

About non-Americans not appreciating the multi-cultureness of America... I don't think this is true - or rather, I think it is but that it's justified. I've been to America and although there are obvious ethnic areas and peoples in abundance, it's not the same as having a different country with it's own people and history next door. The Jewish people in Prague, for example, may be very similar to those in New York but as a whole collective, the Jewish community would be very different. The integration or not of ethnic groups into countries and regions changes over generations and centuries, not just decades, so while the USA may have many african, asian, and european immigrants for example, the communities they forge will never be equivalent to those they have left, with all their historical baggage. Europe has a history stretching back several thousand years, from Greece and Rome, through the days of Charlemagne, the middle ages, the renaissance and the agricultural and industrial revolutions to the present day. America as a country has a history of only 200 years or slightly more - it is silly to suggest that it's ethnic communities are on a par with Europe. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing - the newness and freshness of the States is why many Europeans find it so attractive. But you can't invent History, either scoially or culturally - it has to grow. And whereas America may welcome immigrants to become 'american', they are still classifed as asian-american or african american, which in my view is much less of a true integration than anywhere in europe. For instance although British black people may have less of a 'community' with other black people, this also means they are more fully integrated into british society - they are british, period. african-british is not a phrase you would hear over here - if someone immigrates they are an immigrant. if their child is born in britain the child is british - this is how people tend to view things. In america it seems, no matter how long you stay, you will always be a xxx-american, never just an american. but again, this is part of the attraction of the place to europeans - it's so very different to all of europe, whilst being so familiar due to such things as hollywood, and it's economic power.

Frank Wortner , October 21, 1999; 03:10 P.M.

Philip's comment on the "complete ignorance of Jewish culture" of Germans reminds me of something that happened to me. A German professor of engineering was visiting, and I, since I still remembered how to speak at least some German, was chosen to escort him. I showed him the labs, the classrooms, the students, and all the typical stuff in an American engineering school. As we were walking through the hallways, he asked me (in German) why some students were wearing beanies. I had to explain to him what a yarmulke was. I'm really not surprised that the German couple didn't notice the Orthodox Jew amoung the party guests.

Alexander Becker , February 23, 2000; 07:36 P.M.

Critical view of a travelogue  part 1 By Alexander Becker

I have read the travelogue about Berlin very patiently and couldnt help referring to the text in general and some wrong or misleading statements in particular. Although I set no great hopes on changing the far too biased opinion of the author, I dont want to leave his general statements unresolved and the only thing. Fortunately there is a difference between a travellers selective observation and a natives reality that is experienced in Germany.

Primarily, the generally negative tone that runs throughout the whole report strikes you. The author was lavish in unpleasant images, embellishments, examples, or ironical and condescending comments. The journey appeared more like a compulsory lecture at university you rather cancel than a vacation trip. You wonder if the author enjoyed his journey at all. Isnt it the lure of a foreign country to explore it without bias, rather than looking for a corroboration of your prejudices?

Many an insight and enlightenment, which has come down to the author after his short stay in Germany, is very questionable. One piece of the puzzle perfectly fitted to the other, logically forming a complex overall picture of German history, mentality and way of life. No native could have described it better. Or could he? How much does the assessment of a tourist or his acquaintances weigh, compared to the assessment of a German who has experienced reality all life long?

Of course, it is everybodys own decision to give his views and prejudices in public but you should be conscious that it doesnt necessarily help to a critical discussion. A biased reader will really be delighted at this treasury of selective prejudices, will feel corroborated and see no need for objectively dealing with the subject at all. A critical reader will see through the false promises for he has expected a travelogue and now is confronted with untruths and insults. These people have no more desire for a real controversy as well after having been disappointed or offended.

Subsequently - that is to say in a loose instalment of comments - I am going to go into some topics which have been extracted during my reading and, in my opinion, seem to be worth writing a commentary on. By that, there will be the possibility for a critical reader to compare opinions and form an own one.

Kritische Betrachtung eines Reiseberichtes  Teil 1 von Alexander Becker

Ich habe den Berlin-Reisebericht mit viel Geduld gelesen und konnte nicht umhin, auf den Text im allgemeinen und auf einige falsche oder mi_verstdndliche Du_erungen im speziellen Bezug zu nehmen. Zwar verspreche ich mir nicht, etwas an der allzu voreingenommenen Meinung des Autors zu dndern, doch sollten seine allgemeing|ltigen Du_erungen nicht als die einzige Wahrheit im Raume stehen bleiben. Zum Gl|ck gibt es doch einen Unterschied zwischen der selektiven Beobachtung eines Reisenden und der Wirklichkeit, wie sie ein Deutscher in Deutschland erlebt.

Zundchst fdllt der allgemein negative Grundton auf, der sich wie ein roter Faden durch den gesamten Bericht zieht. Nirgends wird an unangenehmen Bildern, Ausschm|ckungen, Beispielen oder gar ironischen wie herablassenden Bemerkungen gespart. Die Reise wirkte eher wie eine Pflichtveranstaltung an der Uni, die man lieber auslassen w|rde, als eine Urlaubsreise. Man fragt sich, ob dem Autor die Reise |berhaupt Spa_ gemacht hat. Liegt der Reiz fremder Ldnder nicht in der vorurteilsfreien Erkundung dieser, als in der stdndigen Suche nach Bestdtigung von Vorurteilen?

Sehr bedenklich sind so manche Einsicht und Erleuchtung, die den Autor nach seinem kurzen Besuch in Deutschland |berkamen. Perfekt pa_te ein Puzzelst|ck in das ndchste, logisch formte sich ein komplexes Gesamtbild deutscher Geschichte, Mentalitdt und Lebensweise, wie es ein Einheimischer nicht besser hdtte beschreiben kvnnen. Oder doch? Was wiegt die Einschdtzung eines Touristen und seiner Bekanntschaften im Vergleich zu der eines Deutschen selbst, der nicht drei Wochen, sondern ein ganzes Leben lang Wirklichkeit erfuhr?

Es steht nat|rlich jedem frei, seine Meinungen und Vorurteile in der Vffentlichkeit zu du_ern, doch sollte einem bewu_t sein, da_ man damit nicht unbedingt zu kritischer Diskussion beitrdgt. Ein voreingenommener Leser wird gar entz|ckt sein |ber diese Fundgrube selektiver Vorurteile, sich bestdtigt f|hlen und |berhaupt keinen Bedarf mehr sehen, sich objektiv mit dem Thema zu beschdftigen. Ein kritischer Leser wird die Mogelpackung durchschauen, hat er doch einen objektiven Reisebericht erwartet und wird nun mit Unwahrheiten und Beleidigungen konfrontiert. Auch diese Leute versp|ren meist kein Verlangen mehr nach einer echten Diskussion, sind sie doch enttduscht oder beleidigt worden.

Im weiteren, das hei_t in einer losen Folge von Kommentaren, werde ich auf einige Themengebiete eingehen, die sich bei der Lekt|re herauskristallisiert haben und die es meiner Ansicht nach Wert sind zu kommentieren. So bietet sich dem kritischen Leser die Mvglichkeit, Meinungen zu vergleichen und sich schlie_lich eine eigene zu bilden.

Arndt Roettgers , March 25, 2000; 02:39 P.M.

After all, that leads me to a joke: Whats the difference between a German tourist and a German terrorist? - The German terrorist has sympathizer.

Amanda Doster , August 04, 2000; 12:11 P.M.

As for the Germans trying to deny or suppress their history, nothing could be further from the truth. Recent Nobel Prize winning author, Guenther Grass, has aptly spoken of Germany's collective guilt complex. Many cities (even smaller ones) have numerous monuments with various warnings/remembrances inscribed on them (z.B. "Den Toten Mahnen" od. aehnl.). However, the real conscience of the German people can be found in the schools. German schoolchildren are taught about the Holocaust and the horrors committed by their grandparents at an early age, and from that point on scarcely a year goes by without an ongoing discussion of the Holocaust in at least one class. Yes, they should be taught---but is math class the most appropriate forum? By the time the average German schoolchild graduates from high school, he or she has been firmly indoctrinated with the idea that they are single-handedly responsible for atoning for their ancestors' sins. Will we allow them any respite from dwelling on the atrocities in their past? (Note: I do not argue for silence on the matter. I argue against excessive flogging of a dead horse.) Since the U.S. obviously feels no obligation to consider its role in decimating Native Americans or displacing a huge percentage of the African population, nor does it feel the need to openly discuss the effects of its economic sanctions and illicit arms sales on innocent civilians, how dare any U.S. citizen go off and falsely accuse Germans of the same crime?

hendrix f. , August 20, 2001; 02:31 A.M.

Im an Asian Canadian, and I do feel for people who suffer injustice past or the present, Yes We should learn our mistakes from the past and maybe then hopefully avoid future mistakes. but no matter what, people will always make mistakes, its just a facts of life. just like the old saying nobody is perfect. What I don't agree is people who committed those mistakes and knows it, but never apologize or do anything about it, but as far as the big German Nazi mistake, Germany in my opinion has done a lot of apologizing to the Jews and the whole world about it, and had been punish economically and morally, so why can't people move on and stop pointing mistakes in the past, As a non white person, Im sure Hitler hated me too, but Hitler is dead, the Nazi regime is demolish, Germany apologized, isn't that enough?, all this talk just lead me to believe, A reverse hatred, don't we have enough lesson's from the past? GEEZ! enough is enough leave Germany alone!.

Percy Wegmann , September 26, 2001; 02:06 A.M.

Wow! As a German who spent 8 years Germany, then grew up in the Midwest and now lives in California I have some comments to make:

1) California rocks! I can't think of a warmer, more cosmopolitan and naturally beautiful place to live. However, I am not a California "Chauvenist", just a happy resident!

2) I'm not a huge fan of the city Berlin, but I do not use my opinions of the city to judge Berliners, and certainly not Germans, as a whole. Just like there's more to America than Mc. Donalds and Disneyland, there's more to Germany than short store hours and castles (original or not). Incidentally, anyone looking for architecture and "culture" should visit some of the smaller and older cities in Germany. Like many tourists, Greenspun appears to have succumbed to the "bigger is better" mentality.

3) St. Louis, like Berlin, may not ooze with the sort of culture and history that Greenspun (or Radu) desire, but a little open-mindedness will reveal enough of the both to elude the comprehension of even the most erudite world traveler.

4) If Prague was so wonderful, why did it only get 1 out of 4 sections?

5) Would Greenspun have enjoyed Berlin better if more young women had flirted with him there?

6) Seriously, Nazism, Slavery, the rape of the American continent and Communism are heavy topics. They all deserve more serious and more moderate discussion than can be afforded them on a photo.net discussion board. However, here's some advice for the casual social critic: instead of harping on past social failures, take your insights and opinions and provide constructive ideas on how to take a positive direction in the future. Even though this won't make your insights any more correct, it will at least provide other critics with a foundation for further constructive criticism. Failure to provide this foundation only encourages anger and makes it unlikely that discourse will ever strike a constructive tack.

Dean Tran , October 10, 2001; 11:17 P.M.

Added comment after reading Uwe Wolfgang Radu posting

Hubert C.M. Janssen , May 18, 2002; 03:47 P.M.

When remarking "how small Holland really is", you show some geographical ignorance; the country's name is "(Kingdom of) The Netherlands". "Holland" is just a part of the country, which consists of 12 provinces: Friesland, Groningen, Drente, Overijssel, Flevoland, Gelderland, Utrecht, Noord-Holland, Zuid-Holland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Limburg. "Holland" is the part that is always seen as symbolic for the whole country, with the cloggs, windmills and tulips, being flat and featureless. By "doing Amsterdam", most tourists think they have seen "Holland"; nothing is less true. The Netherlands have more to offer than cheese, tulips and flat land; there are vaste river landscapes and wooded hills too. It takes more than one day in Amsterdam to appreciate the real beauty of The Netherlands; but in fact that goes for every country. By visiting NY and LA one cannot claim to have seen the USA, nor can one claim to have seen Czechia by having visited Prague; Rome is not Italy and Paris is not France. After I have read this story, as well as "Travels with Samantha", my idea of the vast majority of Americans (by which I mean US citizens) being shallow and ignorant about anything outside the USA is still strongly present, if not reinforced.

David Ausman , August 13, 2002; 03:41 P.M.

Well, if we can't make generalizations about people there would be nothing left to say. hee-hee.

Maria Bostenaru , January 18, 2003; 12:16 P.M.


Me in Prague in 1984

I have only read Part 4 carefully as for now. I have been in Prague as I was ten (18 years ago ... so long already) and I am living in Germany since 7 years now, but I have only visited Berlin last summer. So it more complex to say an oppinion about Germany.<br> We came from the south east to Praggue: over Bratislava,Brno, Plzen and Karlovvary. My memories about Prague are very different from those expressed in this article - I recall most the coloured lights of the show cases (which were inexistent in Romania of that times - that is, where I spent the first 22 years of my life), I remember also a food speciality from Plzen, the doll I have bought in Prague and which made me wish to buy more dolls in national costumes. I remember that we got far with German in the whole country because both my parents spoke it, but you also get far with German in Bratislava, more than with Hungarian, despite the minority existing in that part of the country.<br> More pictures of of me in Prague in 1984 can be seen in <a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=185313">this presentation</a>.

John Smith , April 20, 2003; 01:00 P.M.

I didn't think it was very good for someone that considers themself to be an author. The article has been on the web for years yet is full of spelling mistakes and it also includes words for which you need a dictionary to find out what they mean. After reading it once I did not see, after reading it once, any plans or links to plans/maps in order to try to see where the places visited where. A hyphen is used between two adjectives, this and similar basic English mistakes makes the article look as if it was written by someone still at school.

In the comment submission part after the article is another basic English error; the word persistent is used which is meaningless/incorrect and the word should be 'pertinent' which means relevant/useful/constructive etc. (the author is asking for relevant/useful/constructive comments and does not want mud throwing or pointless slandering comments/insulting comments).

If the American author cannot be bothered to even run a computer spell check on his article then should readers be bothered too much about what the author has to say ?

If there are no links to maps then it seems a bit pointless to put a personal visit report on the web. The repeated references to Cadogan's Guide book looks like sad self- interest on promotion for one make of guidebook.

The repeated swipes at Germany and Germans, is this due to the author's Jewish side ? One comment might have been accepted but by repeating it makes it looks like he has 'an axe to grind' against the Germans.

The discussion about the difficulty of crossing European borders is of course wrong since there are in fact no border controls at all in most of western Europe, you just drive, cycle or walk through. But why would an American bother with detail or fact when talking about Europe, Europe is just a small insignificant place compared to the glorious country of America !!, not .

ellie chignell , May 31, 2004; 07:01 A.M.

I am from the Czech Republic, now living in England. I just wanted to say that I have found the artical in places quite insulting. The Czech Republic was for over 40 years under communism, that is going to show somewhere??!!! your comparison of Czech cars to American's lawnmowers might be true, however it is insulting and a bit harsh....so is your note about Sokolovska Street which "the Czechs somehow regard as a superhighway" Honestly, I do not want to go through your article and pick on every little thing, but when you travel to different country, you have to remember that the lifestyle, the culture, the people, the politics, the time of getting your bike will differ .....

Gejza Cepela , September 10, 2004; 10:55 P.M.

I'll say this.America will never understand Europe.America will never understand the rest of the World.I think that people outside the US understand America much better than Americans understand most of us.America is living a dream but all dreams come to an end and it's the END that rest of the World has experienced at one time or another.I have to say though "it's a great feeling when one can dream".Go on America and dream ,I can only wish you that your "high" goes on for a long very long time.

Christian Deichert , March 10, 2005; 07:00 A.M.

It's very interesting to read the different perspectives offered here and on other pages of this story. I'll offer my own as well.

First off, having lived in Germany for a little while now, I can certainly attest that yes, German life is much different from American life, and yes, it can be hard to make that adjustment. As a soldier living in Wiesbaden, I certainly enjoy the best of both worlds; I can go into town and live "on the economy" like a German, but I also live and shop in an American environment inside the kaserne fence. Overall, I grew more used to things and enjoyed my time here more with each additional day I spent in Germany. (Certainly, as I write this from the hell-blasted sands of Kuwait, I wish I was at my apartment right now, looking out my window across the fields to the little suburb if Erbernheim.)

Someone above (sorry, I'm to lazy to go back and look) said that many American cities have no soul, and to some extent, I am afraid I have to agree. I grew up in Atlanta, and while it certainly has its good parts, walking through the town itself is not really all that inspiring. [Of course, I can say the same thing about Frankfurt, Germany, especially since Frankfurt really reminds me of Atlanta.]

However, it seems a bit unfair to compare cities like Prague and Berlin to cities like Atlanta. Parts of Prague have been standing for over eight hundred years, or at least that's what the proprietress of the painted silk shop off the Old Town Square assured me, and the city has been left reasonably intact by history. Atlanta began as a railside town in the late 1830s (and, lest we forget, was for the most part burned to the ground in 1864).

What really gives a city a soul? Is it just a sense of history? I'm not sure. I think Prague has a soul, but I can't be sure that my experiences there have not been completely dominated by my sense of wonderment at the history and at the vast difference between Prague and where I grew up.

Suffice it to say that I am more confused now than when I started typing. Perhaps this will teach me to have a bit more coherent thought process in mind before I start to write. But I think (or hope, anyway) that my basic message gets across.

We are all a product of our environment and our upbringing. As long as we come from different backgrounds and cultures, there will be things we don't identify with, may never identify with, when we see different cultures. Is it rude to discuss these feelings? Is it cowardice to hide them? Perhaps a little of both. However, right or wrong, I am glad Phil's story appears as it does, if for no other reason that it has stirred others to comment about or against it.

Magdalena B. , April 08, 2005; 03:20 P.M.


Charles Bridge

Completing what my daughter wrote (she also posted a photo), I have memories of a very nice holiday in Prague.

Khrystene Dalecki , December 16, 2005; 06:01 P.M.


Dont touch!

Thank you for your stories. Although I might not agree with everything you say, I certainly appreciate your viewpoint.

I'm an Australian [of Polish heritage] now living back in 'the old country' - Poland. And I certainly understand the animosities that exist between different groups, but I think that having every available convenience, as we do in Australia, and I'm sure you do in the USA, hasn't relieved any of the tensions between groups of people, if anything I think it's set up a new 'class' war type of situation - you know, the 'have's and have not's'.

One of your commentors/readers said: "You will find that as new generations grow up, they will give less and less of a damn about the past, and consequently they might become happier and happier "

I beg to differ. Look at the animosities that exist and are escalating throughout the world these days... simply, IMHO, because old 'sentiments' and arguments have been systematically swept under the carpet, and people have not learnt from history... Discussion not documentaries is the only way.

Enough ranting. Thank you :)

Khrystene


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