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EOS bodies for Infrared film?

Michael Riggs , Jun 16, 2006; 11:47 p.m.

I am looking at getting an EOS body to do infrared work with since my Elan 7 will fog IR film. I figure this will be more economical than borrowing/renting dad's A1 system (happy Father's Day by the way) and save space. Does anybody have experience with such a camera or know which ones to use?

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Yaron Kidron , Jun 17, 2006; 12:26 a.m.

EOS 630.

NK Guy , Jun 17, 2006; 05:51 a.m.

In my opinion the cheapest convenient option for this is the 10/10s, though its exposure compensation interface is pretty lousy. However, now that film camera prices are plunging, maybe a used 1N or 1V might work for you.

I've wrriten a whole article on the subject, incidentally.

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-ir/

carnagex carnagex , Jun 17, 2006; 05:53 a.m.

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-ir/

The following cameras use mechanical sprocket counters and do not fog IR film. I don�t believe any of these models ever shipped with pressure plates with holes in them, but I don�t know for certain for each model. Let me know if I�m wrong about any of these. (see the note about the 10 QD below, in the �where� section)

EOS 1, 1 HS, 1 N, 1N RS, 1N DP, 10 (10S, 10QD), 600 (630), 620, 650, 700, 750, 850, RT, 10 QD.

The following cameras use mechanical sprocket counters, but have cutouts in the pressure plate and thus are vulnerable to the secondary problem. (see the note about 600-series models below, in the �what� section)

EOS 630 QD, 650 QD, 700 QD, 750 QD, 1000 (Rebel), 1000F (Rebel S), EOS 1000 QD, EOS 1000F QD (Rebel S Quartz Date), 1000N (Rebel II), 1000FN (Rebel S II), EOS 1000FN QD, 1000S QD, 1000S QD-P, EF-M.

The following cameras use IR diodes for sprocket hole-counting and so fog IR film. Some also have pressure plate cutouts for good measure. Still others (the newer Rebel-type cameras) have parallel grooves cut into their pressure plates, making matters still worse for HIE photography.

EOS 100 (Elan, 100 QD, 100 panorama), 5 (A2, A2E, 5 QD), 50 (Elan II), 50E (Elan II E), 55, 500 (Rebel XS, Kiss), Rebel X, 500N (Rebel G, New Kiss), 5000 (888), 3, 30 (Elan 7E, EOS 7), 33 (Elan 7), 300 (Rebel 2000, Kiss III), 3000 (88), 30V (Elan 7EN, EOS 7S), 33V (Elan 7N), 300V (Rebel Ti, Kiss 5).

The following camera uses an IR diode but it�s shielded in such a way that it isn�t supposed to fog IR film: EOS 1 V.

carnagex carnagex , Jun 17, 2006; 05:54 a.m.

(You beat me NKGuy, I was looking for your article)

Michael Riggs , Jun 17, 2006; 03:48 p.m.

Thanks for the info. I checked out a 650 at a local camera shop and it looks decent. The kid working the counter said I couldn't use IR film because of the DX coding device (?) and film window on the back (?). I had to reiterate a few times what my research on this subject yielded.

Alistair Windsor , Jun 17, 2006; 07:31 p.m.

The DX coding device is the collection of metal prongs that read the film speed from the metallic code on the side of the film canister. It will not affect your IR film.

Steve Dunn , Jun 17, 2006; 07:34 p.m.

If you're digging that far back in the EOS line, do some research about the rubbery goo that messes up the shutters on some older EOS bodies. I don't recall which models are subject to this, but some of the older models use some sort of rubber compound which softens with time and eventually coats the shutter blades. It's not fatal; it can be cleaned. Just something to watch out for on older bodies.

Michael Riggs , Jun 18, 2006; 11:41 a.m.

Yes, I've seen the gooo on a few cameras and take servicing costs into account. Thanks for all the input, gents.

Dexter Jackson , Jun 18, 2006; 02:33 p.m.

Use Konica 750 film, it will work on all EOS film bodies. Ilford also makes SFX film that will also work. These films are also much easier to handle.


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