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I want to upgrade my equipment

Athansios Retzonis , Feb 07, 2008; 06:27 p.m.

Hi from Greece ! I am an amateur and I want to upgrade my equipment so I need your advice. The lenses I own are : Canon 24-105 mm F4 L IS, Canon 70-200mm F4 L (non IS) . I intend to change the 24-105mm with Canon 28-70mm F2.8 L ( I found one used). I dont have the money to go for Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS so I am looking for a prime lens for portraits. I know than the Canon 135mm F2 L is a very good lens and I can aford the money. I want your opinion . I also have the Canon 5D.

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James Colwell , Feb 07, 2008; 06:40 p.m.

Me, too.

Seriously, what you have now is excellent gear, so it's not so much "upgrade", as it is "what's next to let me take photos that I can't do so easily with what I now have?". The 135/2 will be a new capability, no question about it. I have both the 24-105L and 24-70L, so I can't recommend selling one to get the other, unless you really want handheld portability over all of the larger-aperture benefits (or vice-versa).

Athansios Retzonis , Feb 07, 2008; 07:13 p.m.

I need a fast portrait lens for indoor . I think that there is a big diference between F4 and F2.8 so thats why i want to upgrade

William W , Feb 07, 2008; 07:28 p.m.

I would not sell the 24 to 105F4L to buy a used 28 to 70F2.8L.

I would sell the 24 to 105F4L to buy a used 24 to 70F2.8L in excellent condition, that, to me would be an `upgrade`, as you term it.

I would not like to loose 4mm at the wide.

The 135F2 is the ant`s pants: I want one too, for my 5D.

I have tested a 135F2L.

Take 20 frames (sorry, actuations) and you are just gone, it is like fine wine: hooked forever, and IMO 135 is just a perfect FL for portraits (which is a personal opinion as opposed to the factual information about being hooked).

The 85 F1.8 mates well with the 135F2L for portraiture, I have that lens too.

WW

Alan Myers , Feb 07, 2008; 07:29 p.m.

Hi,

You can choose among the 85/1.8, 85/1.2 II, 100/2, 135/2.8 Soft Focus or the 135/2 as excellent, classic focal length portrait lenses on your full frame camera.

William W , Feb 07, 2008; 08:02 p.m.

>>> I need a fast portrait lens for indoor . I think that there is a big difference between F4 and F2.8 so thats why i want to upgrade <<<

I am a little confused: the above quote refers to buying the used 28 to 70F2.8L, I assume.

If this is correct then IMO, the f2.8L whilst faster than F4 is still NOT fast enough to accommodate all `portrait lens indoor` shots (assuming no flash or reflectors are to be used).

Certainly, F2.8 will be fast enough for many indoor captures, but not all.

Considering indoors has walls (i.e. a smaller space to work than outdoors):

Lenses for indoor, available light portraiture on a 5D would be: 100mmF2; 85mmF1.8/F1.2L; 50mmF1.4F1.2L; and 35F1.4L.

All these have better speed and, depending upon space you have, will provide a range of wide to tight portraiture.

The 135F2L could be used indoors also, if you have the space.

My previous post regarding the more general `upgrade` question still applies.

WW

Sheldon Hambrick , Feb 07, 2008; 10:03 p.m.

Keep what you have and get the 85/1.8.

M Barbu , Feb 07, 2008; 10:52 p.m.

If I was looking for a prime to use for portraits, it would either be the EF 135mm f/2L USM or the EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM. Since you have the 5D, I'd probably go for the 200mm. However, I have an affinity for the compression telephoto offers, for portraits.

Athansios Retzonis , Feb 08, 2008; 06:00 a.m.

I am a little confused: the above quote refers to buying the used 28 to 70F2.8L, I assume.

>>If this is correct then IMO, the f2.8L whilst faster than F4 is still NOT fast enough to accommodate all `portrait lens indoor` shots (assuming no flash or reflectors are to be used).

Certainly, F2.8 will be fast enough for many indoor captures, but not all. <<

I want the 28-70mm as an all around lens . I dont mind to get the 24-70mm but i cant find a used one. I think that the 4mm is not a big disadvadange for me . It is one or two steps backwards. I think that the 28-70mm is not an ideal lens for headshots because I dont want to be too close to my model so I need a fast medium telephoto . If I had the money I would go for the 70-200mm f2.8 IS but.. Sorry for my bad English

Tommy DiGiovanni , Feb 08, 2008; 11:52 a.m.

I agree with many others here. Keep the 24 - 105 IS. and just get some primes for the times you need the really wide aperture. I think the 28 - 70 is an older lens that has been upgraded to the 24 - 70.

The 85 1. 8 is a great choice for you and a lot less money.


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