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Buying dilemma - used or new

Monica Brown , Jun 29, 2008; 03:37 a.m.

Hi everyone,

I want to buy a 40D to take to Germany for 2 years leaving in September (currently living in Australia).

I'm having a dilemma right now whether to buy brand new with a peace of mind or take the risk with used equipment for a bit of savings.

In particular talking about the warranty coverage, my concern with buying used equipment is that Canon warranties do not seem to be transferrable if the item was acquired through a purchase (not a gift).

However, if I were to buy new, I don't know whether I would be able to claim the warranty from Germany without shipping the thing back-and-forth to Australia due to cost and the added risk of getting it more damaged along the way - which in that case I might as well go without a warranty and bear the repair cost at a local shop and hope for the best.

I've thought about buying the gear in Germany where I would actually be spending 2 years there, but I've never been to Europe and don't know any reputable shop to buy camera there or the language skills to ask around for a good deal.

I've also come across the Mack International Warranty but don't know much about it. From the forums here people have mixed experiences as well, and I don't know if it would be valid in Germany.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

FYI, these are what I have in front of me right now:

New - Canon 40D body only AU$1189 before shipping. Canon 40D + 18-55mm IS AU$1385 before shipping.
Used
3mths old Canon 40D + 18-55mm IS + CPL filter + Sandisk Extreme IV 2GB + camera bag - about AU$1150 delivered.
6mths old Canon 40D + 18-55mm IS + Sandisk Extreme III 8GB + UV and CPL filters - about AU$1200-1300 delivered.

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Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 04:21 a.m.

Unless you knew very well the owner of the 40D and his/her reasons to sell a last model camera, I wouldn't run the risk.

Monica Brown , Jun 29, 2008; 04:43 a.m.

I don't know either sellers, unfortunately. One of them said he had the camera for a backup and was rarely used so decided to sell. The other one wanted to sell because he doesn't have time to take photos and prefer to get cash to spend on other things.

Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 04:53 a.m.

In Germany, cameras are more expensive due to the rate of exchange. If you decide to buy it there I am sure you will find many good shops. I live in Spain and buy either in USA, bhphotovideo, or Europe, pixmania-pro.

You can see the prices in pixmania, one of the mort reputed sellers. If you had a corporation, you could buy at pixmania-pro, without 16% VAT.

http://www.pixmania.com/de/de/1662/xx/xx/1/1/criteresn.html

Concerning the used cameras, a saving of $200 is not worth your worries, even being the camera in perfect situation.

Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 04:55 a.m.

I meant "most", no "mort"

Rainer T , Jun 29, 2008; 05:07 a.m.

Monica, I just compared your prices for new items to those from online sellers here in Germany, and it seems that buying would be about 10 to 15 percent more expensive if you buy here. So, given that your OZ prices are reliable, it seems a good idea to buy there (at least pricewise).

As for warranty ... I'm pretty sure that a warranty from a non EU country is worthless once you're here. In case of trouble you would have to send the camera home for repair. (Eventually, a repair here on your cost and a refund of the amount from Canon OZ would be possible ... you could mail Canon australia for with this question).

Don't worry about your language skills ... if you're going to stay for 2 years, you will (no doubt) be prepared to learn, and once you're here that will develop quickly, on the other side, you'll find that you can get away with English very well.

I would advice you to buy in OZ (new) and to buy now, so that you have the camera 2 month before you start. Use it regularly. If a brand new devices has failures it usually break down quickly, so you can have it repaired before you start.

Mark U , Jun 29, 2008; 05:37 a.m.

I believe Australia has a reputation for being one of the most expensive places to buy a camera on the planet. You are correct that you may find it impossible to get warranty service on a camera bought in Australia (whether second hand or new) from Canon in Europe. However, you also may need to consider customs regulations on the import of personal items for a protracted stay, which could result in you having to pay VAT (or BTW as it is known in Germany) on a camera less than six months old imported anyway.

Contrary to what Antonio says, some of the cheapest prices for the 40D have been available in Europe - it has been selling for less than 500 UKP after cashback (although the cashback offer expires 30th June there have been some hints it may become cheaper still), inclusive of VAT in the UK for example. You are entitled to buy from anywhere in the EU and have Canon service (and Canon cashback as an EU resident, if it being offered): moreover, I think that in Germany you will get 2 years warranty. Finding good deals is mostly a matter of internet searching. I'd look around when you get over to Europe - ask again here if you like. Besides, if you aren't actually travelling for a month or two yet, it's likely that competition will drive the prices down further.

Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 05:59 a.m.

I agree with Mark U. I forgot that UK is not in the euro zone and the prices are now lower due to the UKP (GBP) rate of exchange. Amazon.co.uk has the 40D body only in 630.00 GBP = 1,256.61 USD with a cash back of 150. It finishes tomorrow but normally they look for another way to continue reducing the price. And the customs coming from Australia is something to pay attention too.

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I miss an English corrector in photo.net!

Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 06:04 a.m.

Antonio Flores , Jun 29, 2008; 06:04 a.m.

photo.net changes the link!


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