If the 50D was the Full Frame replacement for the 5D, would you upgrade?

But it's not.

If pigs had wings they could fly, but they don't.

What's the point of discussing it.

Yes, I would. My 5D, which I bought about two years ago, is in very rough shape and I would have liked to be able to upgrade to another FF camera, but I was hesitant about getting another 5D because I really need the dust removal system that has been available since the introduction of the XTi.

I know the replacement will come eventually, but I have been very tempted to just bite the bullet and get a D700 for an extra $700 instead of spending $2300 on obsolete technology.

But look at the bright side: we have been complaining because Canon neglected to upgrade the 5D for so long, but I believe it was due to a lack of competition. Now that theD700 is available and Sony is working on a reasonably priced FF camera, Canon will be forced to revise their FF cameras as often as the entry level and prosumer cameras (20D, 30D, 40D, 50D), so we may find ourselves complaining about the 5D replacement being updated too frequently, as has happened with those cameras.

pigs with wings would be awesome.

<I>"pigs with wings would be awesome."</i><P>It would just provide another tasty meat product from God's gift to carnivores.

I think the OP's point was that are 50D features good enough for 5D's successor?

My answer is no. I want a more advanced AF system for the new 5D (as it is, even the existing 5D has a better AF system when 50D when it comes to focus tracking).

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

My grandma had a lot of these in her repertoire.

If the 50D were $700 would you buy one?

If it were $20?

i think you hit the nail on the head. the 5d/2 will most likely have very similar specs as the 50d. and, yes, i will buy one. i'll also take a flying pig. (oh, sorry. those don't exist so discussing the possibility is ridiculous).

Well, right now the 50D on paper is a *much* better camera than the 5D; so of course!

I'll be holding my breath for the 5D's replacement.... soon.

Zafar, good point about the AF - 9 points is insufficient and frankly I am surprised that the 50D only has 9. I would imagine that the 5D II will have an advanced AF system similar to Nikon's new 51 point system so I will add that to my list.

I love my 5D. Like many others, I am contemplating an upgrade. I was impressed with the 50D's specifications except for the 9pt AF. Until yesterday, I was kind of set about keeping my 5D. The 50D's announcement got my credit card a little bit fired up. I may yet upgrade.

I guess I was just thinking out loud...

By the way, I have heard that pig's wings taste like chicken!

Bob Atkins wrote: "What's the point of discussing it."

For me, it's because in the time between now and when they finally DO announce the 5D replacement, it's fun to speculate. Canon must love that. Now that they have released an updated version of the X0D body we have an idea of what Canon marketing have deemed important to their consumers.

For me, I think I would consider upgrading if the 50D were the FF replacement to the 5D. I hate to say it, but I'm a Live View whore. I love it on my 40D and miss it on the Five. I also like the idea of auto sensor cleaning and a better sealed body. Those things alone would sway me, even if they were still using the same three year old FF sensor. The Digic IV processor would be nice and with the same sensor, would probably give a faster frame rate.

I'd be willing to pay a $400 premium just for the items listed above. Given that the 5D is selling for around $2100 at most outlets (my local dealer has removed the 5D from their web site), $2500 would not be unreasonable.

Canon has a history of introducing new features in lower-end cameras that, if successful, ultimately show up in the higher-end cameras.

I am a bit surprised to see the 50D this close to the 40D, so perhaps a 5DII will be here in Spring.

I sold my 10D and my 20D and bought a 40D just last November, so I will likely skip the 50D as I skipped the 30D.

NO, if this is all it is, then I'm straight off to get the better made, better sealed Nikon, with its better 24-70 zoom.

I think that pigs with wings will be included in the 5DIII...

Nope , I wont upgrade, I'll just wait for the 5dmk3 with built in mp3 player .

I need 200 AF points to take good pictures.. until that happens I'm not buying anything and Canon sucks!.

Regardless of everything... all I'm waiting for is the 5D replacement. And yes, I want a built in MP3 player. Is that so much to ask?

How about a built-in 2MP camera!

I'm happy with my 5D and, after an initial VF and CMOS cleaning (factory dust), and haven't had any dust problems whatsoever. AF and Exposure are fine and I don't have a need for more than 12.8MP. The LCD is kinda small 'n dim but that's a minor point and not worth an upgrade.

My Grandma made great a Yorkshire Pudding, and Rhubarb Tarts . . . But I`d like to meet JDM`s Grandma, with a view to add to my list idioms.

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But to answer the question: No.

I am quite happy with my 5D. the only mild eyebrow raise on the 50D, (if transferred to the 5DmkII) for me, would be the ISO.

WW

Not this year. I'd stay with the current EOS 5D that I already own. It does great for the landscape photography that I do. And, with a tripod, cable release and an EI setting of 100 to 400, I don't need an EI of 12,800. Maybe towards the end of 2009 or beginning of 2010 after it had dropped in price and with a rebate attached to it.

What I hope for is an update to the EF 50 f/1.4 USM and EF 28 f/1.8 USM

Give me a 5D MK II with at least 24MP and a chip that can produce 29.5" x 19.5" print at 200dpi, I'd jump on that. (5900 x 3933 @ 200dpi = 29.5 x 19.5) Along with a Digic IV chip and around $3900 dollars. If not, I'll wait.

Not a chance I'll let all you Pro's work out any bugs if there are any. Besides I still need to learn to use the equipment I have. I have a funny feeling that the 5D is going to be all the camera I need for a very long time. Only thing that will make me cry is if the New 5D has a dust removal system now that is going to make me cry like a baby!

I would replace my 40D with flying pig in an instant!

Me 2

i really don't know what most people expect from Canon honestly...

If the new 5D is specced this way the way that the d700 is mostly a similarly specced d300 with a full frame then it will be a great camera - people that say the D300/D700 are so much better weather sealed...how exactly do you judge the weather sealedness of a cam? I agree the nikons "feel" better built but that really doesn't mean much in the real world.

Part of the new canon's specs is better weather sealing, hdmi, new HD screen, mostly the same stuff that nikon has...

Sounds like a great camera...

Those that think that Canon will show off a new top of the line AF in the new 5d are crazy...really. Canon has shown no inclination ever to cannibalize the top of their line - and until their is a 1DIV I just can't see a new better AF to rival that D3's

According to another thread - there was an announcment today from Canon that another DSLR was coming before the end of the year maybe 2 more - it's an interested read and I think they will replace the 5D - please do - when they do I will buy one of your 5D's if you are selling...

"pigs with wings" I don't expect to see that but you never know. the local Pizza Hut seems to have found Buffalos that have wings.

"I love my 5D. Like many others, I am contemplating an upgrade. I was impressed with the 50D's specifications except for the 9pt AF"

How many point did the EOS-3 have ?

Prior to the release of the 50D, I think there were two possible guesses as to where Canon would go with the 5D mkII. They could have released a minor upgrade, with live view, better lcd and a few extra megapixels and pushed the price down to under $2k.

Now I think it is clear that they are trying to hold the $1300 price point with the 50D, which means they will be trying to hold a much higher price point with the 5D markII - probably upwards of $2.5K. To do this they are going to have to pack a whole lot more features in it, such as more like a 1 series AF, faster frame rate, weather sealing.

Pity I would have preferred a FF digital Elan at around $1500 than a digital EOS 3 for $2.5K-3K. Of course everyones' needs are different.

I purchased a 40d four months ago as I was travelling in Europe, so could take advantage of the cashback and VAT free scheme. I had used a 5d for 6 moths before, but I felt better about taking a hit in image quality in order to keep cash in my pocket for an upgrade later. The 40d is also a much more useable camera with 3 programmable modes, better screen and a higher burst rate.

If there is a full frame upgrade of the current xxD platform then I am in.

Sad about the loss of a program mode on the 50d though. If they let you delete all the 'creative modes' so you could replace them with your own settings, that would be heaven.

I am hoping for a 7d 'budget' full frame pitched between the d300 and d700 and a 3d with 1d3 'lite' construction between the d700 and d3.

No pigs with wings but here's some cats with wings.

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holy shit, thats crazzzzzzy! like that dude in Indo who has grown feathers and scaley skin, or those reptillian kids....whats goin on around here?

I'm pleased that this thread has finally taken a useful and interesting turn.

I googled for "pigs with wings" and there are many images, but all seem to be copyrighted.

I think it must be the "end times".

I don't think I have even used my 40D to its full potential. actually I am sure I haven't so no I would not upgrade right now. Full frame will be my next body but probably not for another year.

"I don't think I have even used my 40D to its full potential..."

How many times have you printed large? * Good glass and plenty of MPs use up anyone's potential FAST.

* Large means more than 150 sqr. inches.

And to think I paid $1500 five years ago for my first DSLR stone tool the 10D. Still, I got lots of sweet 247 sqr. inch prints (19x13) with that noisy 6MP sensor.

"9 points is insufficient and frankly I am surprised that the 50D only has 9."

Oh, gimme a break! Name one situation where 9 AF points are demonstrably insufficient!

Trust me - you *can't*. The 51 in the D300 don't make for an AF system that is *any* more capable IN THE REAL WORLD than the AF in the 40D (and there's ample observable proof of this, if you'd just look).

In fact, I'll rephrase this: if you can't get the shot with the 9 fast, accurate, responsive AF sensors in the 40D, *the camera isn't the problem...*

"I need 200 AF points to take good pictures.. until that happens I'm not buying anything and Canon sucks!"

'Nuff said..!

"I need 200 AF points to take good pictures.. until that happens I'm not buying anything and Canon sucks!"

I was going to requote that too because that says it all, LOL! Right on. However with the D!G!C 4 -- 256 hi-precision focus points would be the most economical, with the center 128 being cross-sensitive to lenses f/2 or faster.

Keith, when I shoot portraits, I would usually use that 'missing focus point' to focus on the subjects eyes. When shooting with a lens that has a very narrow depth of field, exact focus is critical.

I wouldn't discount a camera because it doesn't have 11, after all, I have a 5D, but those 2 missing points would be nice (I had and used them with my D200). Nikon put in 51 for a reason. Canon could have/should have, put at least 11.

Yes and I'd have some extra spending cash BUT it's not so I'm going to hold out for the 5D upgrade. : /

Am I the only one here that doesn't need more than 1 autofocus point?

My Ideal Camera would: * High Resolution with High IQ. ( I do not care about low High ISO noise as I never shoot more than 400 iso) * 1 extremely accurate center focus point * Improved dynamic range

EVERTHIG else is just bells and whistles.as long as those 3 points are cover.

Am I the only one here that doesn't need more than 1 autofocus point?


My Ideal Camera would:
* High Resolution with High IQ. ( I do not care about low High ISO noise as I never shoot more than 400 iso)
* 1 extremely accurate center focus point
* Improved dynamic range


EVERTHIG else is just bells and whistles.as long as those 3 points are cover.