Lisa Scott , Nov 27, 2008; 07:51 a.m.
Hi!
I need some help or opinions about portrait lenses and consensus on a macro lens.
First: I need a portrait lens that will not cost me a fortune. I'm a serious photography enthusiast, but just
getting started. I have a Canon Rebel XTi. Can anyone tell me a decent lens to get for my camera, and not
expensive. I know in the future I will upgrade my lenses, but I want to work with them first to get a better
perspective and feel for the different types out there. I need a portrait lens now, I have a wedding coming up
in January, the couple (family) asked that I do their photos. But I can't afford a really good lens right now. It
doesn't matter if the lens is made by Canon or made by an after market brand, just as long as its decent enough
to work with, and give decent photos.
The second question is about a Macro lens someone is selling. Now I know when it comes to macro lenses, to get a
good one I'm looking at paying at least $1000-2000. Which I so do not have right now. The lens for sale is a
Tamron 70-300mm Di LD lens. Any thoughts on this one? Is it worth getting to play around with? Its selling for 160.
Thanks!
Lisa
Rainer T
, Nov 27, 2008; 08:07 a.m.
-- "I need a portrait lens that will not cost me a fortune ... Rebel XTi"
Get the EF 50/1.8 (and if you can afford it get the EF 85/1.8 USM also).
-- "Now I know when it comes to macro lenses, to get a good one I'm looking at paying at least $1000-2000."
It depends on the type of dollars ... if you want a really good macro lens, don't buy a zoom lens. Buy a lens like the EF 100/2.8 macro USM, or the Tamron 90/2.8 macro. Both are excellent lenses. Both cost quite a bit below 1000$ (at least US$).
Michael Lawson
, Nov 27, 2008; 08:21 a.m.
Hello Lisa,
You have more to consider here than I think you may realize.
#1 Portrait Lenses: Do a quick search here and you will get dozens of forum threads about inexpensive portrait
lenses, the most popular response being the Canon 50mm f 1.8 which sells for under 100.00 at B&H. However
depending on your situation sometimes a good zoom (one of the 70-200s) or even the 100mm macro lens is often
recommended for portraits.
#2 Macro Lenses: I don't have any experience with the zoom macros, but I did rent the Canon 100mm Macro this
summer and I cannot wait to make it a permanent part of my lens choices. It sells for under 500.00 at B&H.
#3 Things not considered: Saying yes to shoot a wedding when you seem to have no experience or equipment to do
so can go a couple of ways. You can get lucky and pull it off (Low percentage chance here) or you will take
this very special day of their lives and give them less then special photos to remember it by. I have no real
idea of your photo expertise, but given the questions and equipment listed and not listed above, you need to
consider a lot more than a portrait lens. Consider renting another body or two, you will likely need a flash,
extra memory cards, card reader and device for backing up photos is a good idea....You will hopefully get others
to add on here. I am not a wedding expert, but I do know that I did a wedding for a family member who had a
budget of zero dollars so I helped them out and I wish I would have just paid for a pro wedding photographer for
them instead. Even with two cameras, one with B&W film, one with Color,Me and another family member with phoot
experience (and she had a good eye for the artful shots) shooting, the results were less than spectacular. Even
if they told you they don't care, days, months, years from now they will wish they had better memories. If you
cannot say no, get your lenses and start practicing your shots. Think ahead of what you need to provide at a
minimum. Events during that day will get away from you in a hurry if you are not ready.
Chris JB
, Nov 27, 2008; 08:46 a.m.
I don`t know what expensive is to you but have no problems doin weddings with a tamron 17 50 f2.8, also for economy the canon ef 50mm f2.5 macro is a gem for portraits as short tele and macro, but will need an attachment for 1:1 tho :)
Paulo Magbanua , Nov 27, 2008; 09:06 a.m.
My suggestion: get the Tamron 90mm Macro. A really good Macro Lens, and it would make a nice portrait lens too. It might be too long (for some) on a crop body, but I feel that it gives just enough distance to make your subjects feel comfortable with you clicking away.
Lisa Scott , Nov 27, 2008; 09:14 a.m.
Thank you Michael for your response.
"Saying yes to shoot a wedding when you seem to have no experience or equipment to do so can go a couple of ways. You can get lucky and pull it off (Low percentage chance here) or you will take this very special day of their lives and give them less then special photos to remember it by. I have no real idea of your photo expertise, but given the questions and equipment listed and not listed above, you need to consider a lot more than a portrait lens"
> The last thing I wanted, when posting this, was someone to look down on me upon their high horse. I do have experience enough not only with what I can produce with my camera as is, but with photography programs such as Photoshop CS3. The couple in question have viewed my portfolio, and are impressed enough with it, and my artistic eye, to ask me to do their wedding. I have also done engagement photos for another couple, who as well were impressed with the results. Because I may not have the best of equipment money can buy, does not mean I cannot produce photographs that stimulate the eyes and mind. Having a extra flash, memory cards, extra batteries are a natural give-in for which I have, but I did not mention them because they have no bearing on the question I was inquiring about. I would ask that you take caution when responding to posts, keep your personal sly insulting comments to yourself, nobody cares to read them. Because you are not confident in your results from said wedding shoot, does not mean I am. Perhaps you need to practice more and perhaps not think yourself a master who probably considers himself the next Leibovitz, Karsh or Ansel.
Lisa Scott , Nov 27, 2008; 09:18 a.m.
Thanks Rainer, Chris and Paulo for your responses!
Michael Lawson
, Nov 27, 2008; 09:29 a.m.
Lisa, I am very sorry you took it that way as I was truly trying to be sincere and helpful. I am not a pro and have made my share of amateur mistakes and was only trying to help you\others possibly avoid the same mistakes. The forums are filled with beginners who overlook the little things (which is why I started with "I have no real idea of your expertise). I am very happy indeed that you do have both the ability and confidence to do a wedding that I now know I do not have (I will stick with wildlife). I am not knocking the equipment you have (the XTI is what I use too), I just made a bad assumption when I read the combination of XTI needing lenses for a family wedding and then seeing your page with no pictures posted. I wish you only the best.
Lisa Scott , Nov 27, 2008; 09:37 a.m.
Thank you. I did take what you wrote the wrong way. I just joined the site yesterday, which is why my page is empty. The portrait lens is what I am currently looking to get for the wedding, as I think it may help a little. The macro lens is not needed for the wedding for obvious reasons. I've got a good tripod, so I'm hoping that will help me out a little more in my shots, in relation to buying a cheaper portrait lens.
Neill Farmer , Nov 27, 2008; 09:44 a.m.
Hi Lisa, The above lens suggestions are all valid and of sufficient quality to be part of your gear for years to come.
Good image quality doesn't have to cost the earth, but you do need fast sharp glass. For the wedding you need to
source a back up camera. Since it is a family wedding see if you can find a guest with another Canon DSLR,
preferably an XTi that you can borrow in the unlikely event of Murphy resting on your shoulder. Have a spare charged
battery and cf cards and do some research on flashes, issues relating to depth of field and how to resolve camera
lock-ups. Try some practice sessions so you sort out camera settings (ISO, focus point selection, Av or Tv?, shutter
speeds, aperture settings, Raw or JPG?) before the day.. Look through some Bride and Wedding magazines in your
newsagent to get a few ideas. I have been in your position, it's not easy, but the results can turn out a lot better than
if the bride and groom rely on uncle Ted's point and shoot. Go for some candids, try to avoid long poses before the
shutter is pressed, don't be afraid of shooting in continuous or taking lots of pictures. Talk to the bride and groom
before the wedding to see what they would like, take a few informal portraits of them to see how it turns out. Finally
try spreading the burden a little by enlisting the help of another guest to also take shots. Best of luck. Neill