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DB W , Sep 30, 2012; 05:27 p.m.

Hi everyone,

Another big step for me. I stepped in to the DSLR world last year with a used/secondhand EOD 40D with the kit lens EF-S 17-85 IS USM and I have to say that I'm loving each moment I'm out with my camera shooting anything and everything that interests me.Since then I've purchased an EF 70-200 L f/4 USM and the EF 50mm f/1.4 USM and Ive taken some pretty good photographs with these lenses.

My wife and I was on holiday over the summer and there was a guy with a EOS 5D Mark I with a 24-105 L IS USM that got friendly and was kind enough to hand his camera over and have a play around with it. I really felt a difference with the 5D compared to my 40D (I'm not underestimating my 40D in anyway, I love it) and I felt the need for a Full-Frame Body.

I've been surfing around for quite sometime looking for good condition secondhand full frame bodies...and I think if I wait patiently a little bit longer I would get a better deal with all the new models like the 5D Mark III and EOS 6D out soon.

I'm no where near any of the above mentioned....but I've look at a 5D Mark I 12.8mp and a 1D Mark II 8.2. Both the same price and seems to be in good condition. I know that I would be stupid to be looking for an excellent condition body when it comes to these two models :)

I would really appreciate if you could give your opinion on these two camera models and which one should benefit me on the long (phew) run? Maybe someday I would get a 5D Mark III or a 1DX....but by that time they would be called different names :)

Thank you in advance and have a great week.

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Sheldon Nalos , Sep 30, 2012; 05:36 p.m.

One of the best deals around right now is a brand new 5D Mark II. Canon just increased their instant rebate price significantly, so you can pick up a new body for $1799. That's also going to push second hand prices down quite a bit too, you might be able to get a used 5D II for around $1300. The image quality advances of the 5D II over the original 5D are significant. The 1D Mark II you reference is not a full frame body, and I would prefer even the original 5D over it. The 1Ds Mark II is full frame, but is not as good of a deal as the 5D II right now.

Joshua Szulecki , Sep 30, 2012; 05:45 p.m.

Neither. I'm with Sheldon...The 5DmkII is a GREAT deal right now. I was originally planning to get a 7D as an upgrade to my 40D and stick with crop bodies for one more generation. However, the prices on new 5DmkII dropped so much that, when I sold my EF-S 10-22 that I would no longer need, the price for me was roughly the same for a new 7D. The 7D had better AF and video features, but full-frame trumped those considerations for me. I've been loving it. I'm going to hang onto my crop-body 40D (which has marginally better AF and faster FPS) for birds and other wildlife, too.

Jamie Robertson , Sep 30, 2012; 07:21 p.m.

5D MkII is a killer camera and is now available at a killer price. I've had mine since the day they hit the shelves and have absolutely no plans to "upgrade". It simply does just about everything you could ever want. Coming from a 40D it will be lovely.
Only if you shoot a lot of birds in flight or fast paced sports should you need to consider anything else. For those subjects your aforementioned option of the 1D MkII may be preferable due to its superior AF.

Jeff Spirer , Sep 30, 2012; 08:38 p.m.

My wife and I was on holiday over the summer and there was a guy with a EOS 5D Mark I with a 24-105 L IS USM that got friendly and was kind enough to hand his camera over and have a play around with it. I really felt a difference with the 5D compared to my 40D (I'm not underestimating my 40D in anyway, I love it) and I felt the need for a Full-Frame Body.


So you want to buy it because you like the feel of it in your hands? That doesn't seem like much of a reason to buy a fairly expensive body. The only useful reason to spend a lot of money on a body is that it does something you can't do now.

Peter J , Sep 30, 2012; 09:16 p.m.

I know that I would be stupid to be looking for an excellent condition body when it comes to these two models :)

Uhm, you could have bought mine with the BG-E4 grip a few months ago for $800. Not a scratch on the body or sensor for $800. What I am saying is if you really really look hard enough on eBay, Craigslist and Kijiji, you will find one in excellent condition.

Marcus Ian , Sep 30, 2012; 09:41 p.m.

A 5D could not be considered expensive. Right now you can get them for about the same as a new Rebel kit. Since they can be had for ~$800 (as Peter sold his for), even in excellent condition, it makes them an excellent 'deal', especially if you value high IQ over speed, and modern bells and whistles.

My only advice would be to try to ascertain whether the unit was ever used professionally. As a pro, I often beat the heck out of my cameras, and even though they come away (mostly) scratch free, that doesn't mean they haven't had a rough life. The bottom line is that when used professionally, cameras are merely tools to get images, and their value revolves around that, so just because it starts raining, or a sandstorm blows in (or whatever), doesn't mean we can pack our equipment away to preserve the tools (defeats the purpose in having them). Hobbyists are vastly more likely to have a camera (even a $3000 one as the 5D was originally) that only has a few thousands clicks, and only comes out to play when the sun is shining.

Mike Gendimenico , Sep 30, 2012; 09:55 p.m.

I loved my 5D MkI, took some great photos with it. Still have it but only kept it for a backup once I got the MKII. The 5D is dated but like someone said, if you don't need all the bells & whistles of a new camera, you can probably find a good used one at a pretty good price.
Only thing to be aware of with the original 5D is the mirror tech issue (Poor factory mirror adhesive/assembly, so eventually the mirror falls off). Canon will fix it for free but good to check if that was done...

Sarah Fox , Sep 30, 2012; 11:00 p.m.

What Peter said. My 5D has quite a few miles on it, but I take very good care of my gear. I would characterize its condition as EXC+, if not rather minty. The top LCD does have a light scratch or two, though. I'll likely be selling it soon to upgrade to the 5DII. That said, if you can't afford the 5DII, the 5D is still a superb camera.

Joshua Szulecki , Oct 01, 2012; 05:36 a.m.

Jeff makes a good point...what exactly about the 5D do you suddenly want? My 5Dmkii feels almost indentical to my 40D. In fact, but for the larger viewfinder and the nameplates, I actually have trouble keeping them apart. So I'm guessing it was more than ergonomics?


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