Johnny Tsang , Nov 12, 2009; 07:53 p.m.
Is there any difference between the non S.C. than the S.C. one?
Mark Pierlot
, Nov 12, 2009; 10:18 p.m.
Johnny, the consensus seems to be that all of the versions of the FD 135/2.5 have Super Spectra (SC) coating, regardless of how they are marked. And their optical formulae are identical. For a thorough discussion of the lens, see http://photo.net/canon-fd-camera-forum/00O1m4.
By the way, the 135/2.5 is a fabulous lens. The only 135mm FD lens that's better is the FDn 135/2.
Jeff Adler
, Nov 12, 2009; 10:43 p.m.
Some photo.netters have seen a chrome front 135/2.5 FD or even a photo of a chrome front 135/2.5 FD which would not have been marked SC.
Bob Miller , Nov 13, 2009; 08:23 a.m.
S.C. denotes Spectra Coating (not Super Spectra Coating, which is S.S.C.). It appears that the earlier Canon FL 135mm/2.5 lens had the same coating as the FD versions; is there a way to prove this?
Mark Pierlot
, Nov 13, 2009; 10:50 a.m.
Thanks for the correction, Bob. As an FD enthusiast, I know that "SC" stands for "Super Spectra Coating" and "SC" for "Spectra Coating." I don't know why I made the error in my earlier post. Perhaps there's a poltergeist in my keyboard!
And I, too, would like to see definitive info as to whether or not all versions the FD 135/1.5 are SC.
W T , Nov 13, 2009; 02:06 p.m.
Johnny, look at the "travel with a f1" thread 3 down from this one, some nice pics with the 135 and others
Gordon Yee , Nov 13, 2009; 03:48 p.m.
Canon's brochure on FD lenses published in February 1979 is the newest one I have for the breech lock lenses. It lists the FD 135mm f/2.5 S.C. lens. The brochure published in May 1979 shows only the New FD breech-bayonet mount lenses, including the New FD 135mm f/2.8 lens that essentially replaced the f/2.5 lens.
According to Peter Dechert's book on Canon rangefinder cameras, Canon's first 135mm f/2.5 lens was designed for the Canonflex and subsequently modified for use on the RF cameras with the MB2 mirror box. [Note that the Canon Camera Museum shows that the RF version was first marketed in 1958 while the Canonflex version appeared in 1960. Perhaps the Canonflex version was put on hold until the Canonflex was in users' hands.] The FL 135mm f/2.5 lens appears to be the same optically as the Canonflex R mount version. Canon's published specifications on all three versions state that "magenta" coating was applied, indicating single coating. The FD version of the 135mm f/2.5 lens was a new optical design.
I do not have any detailed information on Canon's SC and SSC lens coating technology which they consider to be proprietary (as do most lens makers). Nevertheless, I believe that Canon's SC lens coating is more advanced than the single layer coating applied to their older lenses. The different colors reflected from the lens surfaces would indicate that different materials and/or thicknesses of coatings were applied to different lens surfaces. I recall reading in a photo magazine test report that, while the FD 50mm f/1.8 lens is listed as having SC coating, some of the lens surfaces were multicoated.
Robin Sibson , Nov 15, 2009; 10:16 a.m.
"The FD version of the 135mm f/2.5 lens was a new optical design." Just as well, if the FL 135/2.5 that I once owned was typical of the breed!
Jeff Adler
, Nov 15, 2009; 05:00 p.m.
The 135/2.5 Canon FL is one of the best FL lenses and one of Canon's best lenses overall. I have seven of them. Six have standard helicoids and one has been adapted for bellows use but has all of its glass. If you have a 135/2.5 Canon FL lens in good condition and your results are not good, it's not the lens.
Bob Miller , Nov 16, 2009; 08:40 a.m.
Gordon Yee wrote "According to Peter Dechert's book on Canon rangefinder cameras, Canon's first 135mm f/2.5 lens was designed for the Canonflex and subsequently modified for use on the RF cameras with the MB2 mirror box.'
I have one of these preset type RF lenses with 13 diaphragm blades, which can be mounted on a Canon FL/FD-type SLR using a 25mm FL or FD extension tube. The extension required for infinity focusing on the SLR is more like 24.7mm, so this configuration doesn't focus all the way out to infinity. It's great for short-range and portrait photos, though. Canon once made an M15-25 (mm) variable extension tube, which would allow infinity focus.
See http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/s/data/100-1000/s_m135_25.html