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Wanted - a Geiss-modified Argus C4

Daniel Iggers , Nov 09, 2004; 02:21 p.m.

Here's the thing. I've got a Geiss-modified Argus C4 and two lenses, a 50mm Cintar and a longer lens with a screw-on hood. Unfortunately the shutter is dead.

For those who aren't familiar, an Argus C4 is a US-made rangefinder from the late 1950s. It is a step above the old "brick" in aesthetics and ergonomics. (But that may be a matter of taste. There is something ineffably brick-like about the brick.)

Geiss modified the A4 to allow the lenses to be interchangeable. The Cintar is the standard three-element lens, that was reputed to be decent.

I'd love to have a working Geiss-modified Argus C4 to try the lenses on. At least the 50mm Cintar. I'd trade the non-working body, plus either a decent regular C4 or a shabby but working C44 with a Cintagon lens, just to get the Geiss one working. I'll run a roll through it and then put it back in the pool.


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Daniel Iggers , Nov 09, 2004; 02:22 p.m.

Did I say A4? I meant c4 throughout.

Red Buckner , Nov 09, 2004; 02:36 p.m.

Keep checking with Keh and the big auction site. The Geiss-modified Argii show up from time to time. I don't know the quality of the other lenses, but the 2.8 Cintar is first-rate.

richard oleson , Nov 09, 2004; 02:46 p.m.

Geiss bodies might be hard to come by; however, you can easily (and cheaply) find a regular C4 that you can use for parts to rebuild your shutter. I have sketches for the disassembly posted at http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-127.html (and an explanation of the shutter mechanism at http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-128.html ), and I'll be happy to help out with the effort if I can... rick :)=

Daniel Iggers , Nov 09, 2004; 02:51 p.m.

I get the shakes just reading the word "disassembly". I'm afraid of that threshold. I know you've got diagrams and all, but all I can see is the cats chasing loose springs and screws across the floor while I dump the chassis into the kitchen trash.

OK, OK. I'll at least read it.

J.Ed Baker , Nov 09, 2004; 04:04 p.m.

Over at the Argus Collector's Group, there's at least one person working to make replacement shutter links for the C4/C44 series of cameras. More info can be found at: http://www.argoflex.com/actuatorlever.htm

Daniel Iggers , Nov 09, 2004; 05:48 p.m.

Yikes! Manufacture a part? No way! I'll wait for my working $10 treasure to come my way.

Daniel Iggers , Nov 09, 2004; 07:56 p.m.

Damn. Disassembled the shutter. Little screws and teeny washers are in the toolbox, and a stack of plates, rings and shutter leaves are on the kitchen table. So much for that one.

Michael Ging , Nov 09, 2004; 08:51 p.m.

May it RIP .............a moment of silence please

Robert Budding , Nov 09, 2004; 10:25 p.m.

You can have a burial at C.

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