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Kodak Monitor Six-16 with 4.5 Anastigmat Special

Jeff Applegate , May 28, 2013; 03:30 p.m.

For a while I have been thinking about buying a Kodak Monitor Six-16 camera with the 127mm f/4.5 Anastigmat Special lens, with the goal of converting it to 120 panoramic. Among all the 116/616 cameras I can think of, it seems like it would be the best choice for such a conversion, at least in terms of potential image quality (let's not talk about bellows problems just yet!). What I have discovered however, is that I can't seem to find one with a coated lens. In fact, I think ever single one I have seen has a lens with a pre-war date code! Does anyone know if Kodak actually made any Six-16 Monitors with a coated Anastigmat Special lens? I would like to know if that specific combination is totally non-existent, or just really rare.



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Gene M , May 28, 2013; 04:08 p.m.

Some cameras converted to do panoramas.


Dan Fromm , May 28, 2013; 06:24 p.m.

Visit this site http://www.bnphoto.org/ and spend some time poking around in it. The answer to your question is probably somewhere in it.

steve mareno , May 28, 2013; 06:44 p.m.

I wouldn't sweat the costings issue Jeff. Assuming that you want it for B&W, those lenses are supposed to have excellent IQ. If you put a good hood on it, use a yellow or orange filter, and shoot something like Tri-X, you'll surely be happy w/ the results. Please report back as to how the project is proceeding. It should be a knockout in terms of image making.

Gene, those sample photos are amazing. I purposely limited myself to a 6x6 enlarger because once you get into 6x9 (or whatever that thing is), it's just going to lead to something bigger, until you're toting around some huge 8x10 camera or something.

I see now that it's 6x12. Really great shots. Maybe I could add a little room onto the place for a bigger enlarger, just in case.

John Shriver , May 28, 2013; 10:40 p.m.

Best chance would be post-war ones with Flash Supermatic shutter.
Not that a Tessar lens really needs coating.
It won't be very panoramic, only slightly. It might be more interesting to make a panoramic out of an earlier 116 camera where you can move the front standard closer to the film and use a wider angle lens, but you would need one with enough coverage. Or you could use a +3 diopter close-up lens (which makes the lens wider-angle), and pull back the front standard to focus at infinity.
This year's Ilford ULF run includes HP5+ in 70mm unperforated, if you want to make fresh rolls of 616 film using old spools and backing paper.

Greg Nixon , May 29, 2013; 08:23 a.m.

I have both a 620 and a 616 Monitor. The 616 lens is dated 1941 and as far as I can see its not coated. It does however give a good account of itself. I have attached a couple of shots from it that may help you make up your mind. The photos are just some happy snaps and are of no particular merit.
The film is Portra 160 bulk 70mm respooled onto 616 spools. Scanned with an Epson 8800F using Vuescan, no sharpening.

Kodak 616 Anastigmat Special

Greg Nixon , May 29, 2013; 08:29 a.m.

Second one

Charles Stobbs , May 29, 2013; 10:04 a.m.

Have you tried fitting a 120 roll into both the supply and take up cavities? Kodak started the 6XX series of film spools to reduce the size of roll film cameras and modifications may be in order for the spools to fit and the exposure numbers to be visible and meaningful.

Greg Nixon , May 29, 2013; 12:23 p.m.

On this page http://kodak.3106.net/ there is a .pdf download that will help you with spooling and masking. Well worth a read.
Greg Nixon

Greg Nixon , May 29, 2013; 12:26 p.m.

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