Epson 2200 color cast with SP2200 Premium Luster profile

Dan Grolemund , Feb 19, 2003; 08:03 p.m.

I just acquired an Epson 2200 printer. I am having great difficulty with printing images using the Epson paper profiles that came with the printer, e.g., SP2200 Premium Photo Luster_PK (those hiding in the PIM directory on the distribution CD). I am on a WinME system in PS 7.0. If I select any of these paper profiles under Print Space in the print dialog, I get a VERY intense magenta cast on the image REGARDLESS of further print settings in the Epson driver - such as turning off color management. My monitor is calibrated with PANTONE OptiCal and the Spyder. If I print PANTONE's reference image while allowing the Epson to color manage (set Printer Color Management in the Print Space dialog), the results are good and match the screen. Additionally, I can see the magenta cast in the Epson Print Previewer, but do not see it when I use these paper profiles in PhotoShop Proofing. Any suggestions? Are these profiles Apple ColorSync, and not intended for Windows? I saw some very impressive results out of these profiles on a MAC.

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Justin Winokur , Feb 19, 2003; 09:08 p.m.

I had a similar problem with my low end epson 820. I gat a meganta cast when i used a profile but when i left it un porfiled and printed with the included film factory (i don't know if the 2200 comes with this program)i got results much closer to what i wanted. I would link you to the post but i think the moderator nixed it. Sorry.

Jon Cornforth , Feb 19, 2003; 10:33 p.m.

I've been using the 2200 for a few months now with excellent results. I read something recently on the Epson site talking about profile assigning issues with PS 7, but I use Photoshop Elements 2. I got custom profiles made for my ink/paper choices, which I find is really the only way to go. Check out www.chromix.com, download their color target, print it, send it to them, and then wait for the result. I've been using custom profiles from them for all of my different printers (1270, 2000P, 2200) for over a year, and can't believe that I ever tried to rely on the 'canned' profiles that the companies provided. I am using a Mac but I am unaware of that having anything to do with your problem.

peter nelson , Feb 19, 2003; 10:35 p.m.

There is a problem with the supplied profiles that creates an intense magenta cast on many systems. I have that problem on my Win2K system. This has also been reported on, discussed extensively about a month back on the Yahoo Digital Black and White printing forum. The pink is present on the preview as well as the print. I use Printer Color Management and forget about the supplied praper profiles - there's a major bug.

Jack Flesher , Feb 20, 2003; 10:32 a.m.

Dan:

You have might try telling the Epson driver to "Don't Color Manage" under the advanced prnter settings dialog, and set the paper used there as well. Give that a try if you're not doing it already, and then you should get WYSIWYG from PS7 and your calibrated monitor.

Rosty Vygovsky , Jun 24, 2003; 08:53 a.m.

Are you looking at the prints under the fluorescent light? I had the same magenta cast problem until I nstalled the "natural daylight" bulbs in the room I do printing in.

Walt Bowen , Jul 02, 2003; 12:53 p.m.

I ran into EXACTLY this same problem using Photoshop v6 in Win98 with the Epson 2200 and all of the ICC profiles provided with the printer software. If you are willing to bear with my wordy explanation I have found pair of solutions (a couple actually) that seems to work for me.

There are 2 methods that I found to work: METHOD 1)PRINTER DRIVER DOES THE COLOR MANAGEMENT: When you print, you can access a pop-up box from the printer driver software that will ask you to select the paper type (e.g., premium glossy,...). After selecting the paper type, you can tell the driver what type of color management to do (ICC, PhotoEnhance, Color Adjust.) I select ICC.

After accepting the above-described printer driver selections, go back to the print pop-up and set the source space to: document, and set the print space to PRINTER COLOR MANAGEMENT. This tells lets the printer driver use the pseudo-ICC inside the printer driver to map your monitor colors onto the paper you selected above. Note: The print preview works if you let the printer set up the color mapping as described above.

METHOD 2) PHOTOSHOP AND ICC PROFILE DOES COLOR MANAGEMENT. As above, access the printer driver software pop-up box (through the Print pop-up) and tell it the type of paper you are printing on. Next, select ICC under Color Management. Next, a "DON'T DO COLOR ADJUSTMENT" box appears. CHECK THIS BOX! (As I understand it, this tells prevents the print driver from doing the color mapping -- you will do this in photoshop>)

VERY IMPORTANT: Do NOT check the "Print Preview" box!!! For some reason not understood by me, some mischief that happens (magenta preview, magenta print) when you use print preview AND an ICC profile.

Back in the print box select Source space = document, print space = SP2200 Premium Glossy_PK (or what ever paper type you are using.)

I hope this helps. Good luck!

Walt

Dave z , Jul 26, 2003; 02:05 a.m.

actually i had this problem and just figured it out. If the photoshop program or whatever program your printing with , has a icc profile different that of the epson 2200 profile icc displayed as in the reply before mine, the color will be magenta'd. Actually exactly what i did right before i found a correct print was to take the icc off colormetric in psp7, and changed the profile to epson 2200. But all in all i think it is because the profile should be set to epson 2200 in the color advance menu in print preview for psp7.

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