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Not enough memory (RAM) to run photoshop

Andy Webster , Oct 07, 2004; 03:10 p.m.

None of the responses Google pulled in seem to help with this problem so perhaps someone on this board will know?

When I try to start PS 5.5 I get the error mssg:

Not enough memory (RAM) to launch Photoshop

There is 256Meg RAM and a little prog called Cleanram tells me there is at least 171meg available. No other apps are running. Processor is (grin) 400mHz (I'm a slow worker....) Virtual mem is set to windows management, running WinME. It HAS run on this machine before. WinME has recently been re installed, so has PS 5.5....... any wisdom??

Many thanks in anticipation Andy


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Scott Eaton , Oct 07, 2004; 03:55 p.m.

The processor isn't a problem, it's 256meg of RAM with Microsoft's 3rd generation enhanced DOS shell 32-bit GUI emulator called Windows ME that's the problem. Windows 2000 plus a RAM upgrade will fix this.

Assuming it worked before means you've had to re-install some Windows OS, likely ME - See advice above.

You can probably fix this by manually forcing the Windows swap file to a manual gig minimum/maximum, reboot, and then set Photoshop's memory utilization to 80-90%.

Then, disable CleanRam becuase all these utilities do is compete with system resources.

Jack Paradise , Oct 07, 2004; 03:57 p.m.

any wisdom??

Get more memory. At the very least, you should add another 256mb of memory. And Photoshop will run faster because of less disk access.

Tomoko Yamamoto , Oct 07, 2004; 04:19 p.m.

How big is your hard drive? I'm really not a big expert on computers, but I recall my difficulty in running Photoshop when I upgraded to 7.0.1 from 5.0 with only a 10GB hard drive but with a increase of memory to 512MB. Because of the difficulty of running the scanner from Photoshop, I did an upgrade of increasing the RAM to 768 and changing the drive to 40GB. However, my processor is PIII 600MHz and my OS is still Win98SE, which, I suspect, does not take up much space nor memory as WinME.

Your upgrade might be limited by the hardware you have. It is sometimes better off to have OS and hardware in the same vintage.

Andy Webster , Oct 07, 2004; 05:42 p.m.

Thanks to each of you for the fast response.

Scott - I set the swapfile (I guess that's virtual memory) to min 1000 and max 1000, reboot and it's just the same. I might not have made myself clear in the original post but the problem is that PS won't even start (launch), all I get is the error message I mentioned. It's not a useability prob - it just won't start!

I know this system will labour under the most modest PS tasks but this is my FIRST foray into digital. I want to test the water first.

Kelly Flanigan , Oct 07, 2004; 07:25 p.m.

Here we have about 4 win98se boxes that have only 256megs of ram; they run from 400 to 566Mhz; are Celerons. The slowest 400Mhz box is not web connected; and is used to make make minor retouching. We have had no problems at all with 20 to 40 meg files. It is a clean box; with only Photoshop 3; 5.5; 7.0; and a few office programs. The second logical drive now has win2000; and CS added. With a clean win9x box; not web connected; we have had zero problems. One other 566Mhz celeron that is web connected has a radically more memory problems; and requires a reboot at times to clear the memory hosing issues of the lamer Win9X products.

I tried the maxmem mory free up program by analog-x; it says it frees up memory; but the win9X web conected boxes still require rebooting.

Getting a win2000 system radically reduces memory problems.

Our non web connected win98se box with 256megs has only been rebooted maybe every month; and it gets used every day with 30 meg files in PS 5.5 and 7.0.

Our 566Mhz win98se box with 256megs is used alot on the web; and requires a constant ad aware se personel scans each day; requires Norton antivirus; requires spybot; just to exist. A reboot each day is the norm ; it gets about 1000 + spam emails a week.

Our experience is that cluttered; web connected boxes that have multiple users require regular reboots with win 98se. Our experience is that clear PS only win98se boxes can go months with no memory problems.

WinMe is not my bag at all.

Kelly Flanigan , Oct 07, 2004; 07:43 p.m.

One of our web connected old win98se boxes took a major slowdown at the end of august. A file that started with a zy something .exe would appear in the bowels of windows; and as a running task; and the entire computer would radically bog. The file date was always aug 23,2004. We did a web search on google; and NO hits appeared. Norton 2004 pro; adWARE; AND SPYBOT didnt find it; or fix it in august. I did a search by date; and found the exe file. If the file was deleted; all was ok; computer had no bog at all. The file would reappear about every day. One of the 3 programs must have removed the seed; and the system is now all ok. Alot of fun; when all IE updates are in place; and the other stuff too.

Ad Aware SE personal 1.05 must have a much better filter; it catches alot more crud.

Here some of our older boxes are hardware limited to 256megs; the non web connected have ZERO memory problems. My bet is that you have some hidden gunk hogging memory; or a settup issue. WinMe is not great; but PS still load and work.

Walter Degroot , Oct 07, 2004; 07:45 p.m.

Response to Not enough memory

does scandisk and defrag run? if the partition is too big it may not. or something may be hogging memory .you don't know the max memory limit of that motherboard my wife's amd 450 only accepts 384 megs of ram. so don't assume 512 will fix things. there is a pc mag util called startcop. it allows you to turn off but not delete startup utils and apps. every application is in there and all take SOME memory. and some apps you may not recognize. it is safe as you make the unwanted apps YELLOW and reboot. red will cause them to be removed from startup.

John Bright , Oct 07, 2004; 08:12 p.m.

Andy. I'm afraid I can't help you with your problem, but I'll just tell you what I've been running PS7 on for the last year: Pentium 2 266Mhz (512k CPU Cache) 288RAM. 6.4 HDD. WIN ME. It runs beautifully on files up to about 50MB, after that the HDD takes a bit of a battering, but it still works fine.

There's been a lot of discussion on here recently about this subject and one guy, with a system considerably bigger than mine reckons he can make a cup of coffee and a sandwich while PS revolves a 50MB file a few degrees, mine does 90-degrees in about 3-seconds. What's going on here?

All I can think is, that, a lot of these systems must be bogged down with a lot of crap and they are just going round in circles. I reinstall everything on mine about every three months right from square one, maybe that helps.

I'm in the process of looking for a new machine at the moment, but I'd love to get to the bottom of this conundrum. By the way my old heap opens PS in about 20-seconds the second time and with XP installed it does it even quicker. There's another anomaly.

Good luck

Mag Miksch , Oct 08, 2004; 04:00 a.m.

"Microsoft's 3rd generation enhanced DOS shell 32-bit GUI emulator called Windows ME"


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