Brad Kim 
, Apr 13, 2005; 07:56 p.m.
I want to make good B&W prints digitally. But I am frustrated.... because almost
always I get the B&W prints that carry some color hues in them. Depending on the
papers on which I print, sometimes I get greenish hues.... and sometimes I get
reddish hues with prints from my greyscale image files.
In the hope of making better B&W prints, I upgraded my digital photo printer to
Epson Stylus Photo 2200. With matte black and light black ink cartridges among its
7 cartridge system, this printer makes somewhat better B&W prints... but I am still
NOT SATISFIED.
I heard that B&W UT7 Cartridges from MIS Associates could be a solution to my
problem.... Does anybody have enough experiences with this products/system?
I will appreciate your sharing of the experiences and/or ideas with me.
George Triantis , Apr 13, 2005; 08:13 p.m.
Bob Michaels
, Apr 13, 2005; 08:41 p.m.
The easiest way to avoid color hues is to not use the color inks and just print with the black ink. Some of us believe that way makes better b&w prints than quadtones. I've used Piezo, MIS FSN, UT, & UT2 MIS inks over the last several years. I still prefer the look of MIS Eboni, printed Black Only, over any of them.
Many think "Jeez, this is so simple that it can't work well. I need some expensive complicated solution." That's your call.
See Clayton Jones excellent series of articles at: http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm for a detailed explanation.
Jack Paradise , Apr 13, 2005; 08:56 p.m.
Andrew Rodney , Apr 13, 2005; 08:58 p.m.
The real solution cost money but nothing's better. Get the ImagePrint RIP. No only will you
get dead nuts neutral prints but you'll get superior dither and color prints. You can tone,
split tone and combine color and B&W. You'll also get prints that are virtually metamerism
free (meaning they look neutral under all illuminants).
Daniel Kreithen , Apr 13, 2005; 09:51 p.m.
The other option, if you stick with one or two papers, is to get your printer custom profiled. I have used Dry Creek Photo (website is the obvious one), and, while the turn-around time took a while, I can now print dead neutral B&W prints. One profile (single type of paper) runs $50. Metamerism under light sources other than that for which the profile is calibrated for is minimized if you choose to print on matte papers.
Daniel Kreithen , Apr 13, 2005; 09:52 p.m.
Forgot to mention: the custom profile allows you to print with the standard Epson color inks...you don't have to dedicate a printer to B&W only with a quadtone inkset.
Beau . 
, Apr 13, 2005; 10:01 p.m.
I use the ImagePrint 6 RIP, and it's pretty good. However, I recently went back to the darkroom to make some fiber-based prints, and comparing them to the digital prints was a wake-up call. I was reminded that, while it's come a long way, digital B&W is still young in its development.
Helen Bach
, Apr 13, 2005; 11:59 p.m.
IJC/OPM from Bowhaus is another option for B&W printing using colour inks in the 2200, similar to QTR and ImagePrint, though it lacks the colour printing capability of ImagePrint. I find that the density range and smooth tonality of prints produced by the 2200 using IJC/OPM can rival conventional fibre-based printing.
Best, Helen
Rich 815
, Apr 14, 2005; 01:39 a.m.