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Best C-41 film for scanning in 2008

Steve Rosenblum , Jan 12, 2008; 11:53 p.m.

I realize that this question has been asked and answered often over the years, but I don't see any recent discussions of this over the last 2 years or so.

I have decided (for several reasons) to dig out my 35 mm gear and adopt a hybrid approach again for awhile. I would like to shoot 35mm C41 color film, have it developed locally, and then do my own high rez scans on the "keepers". I have a Minolta Dimage 5400 II film scanner as well as both Silverfast and Vuescan software on a Mac based computer system.

Since I last did this 5 years ago some films have disappeared and a few new ones have come out. I would like your opinion as to which C41 films in ISO 100, 400, and 800 would fit this workflow the best?

Thanks!

Steve

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avijit ghosh , Jan 13, 2008; 01:43 a.m.

I am doing the same thing but w/ the Nikon 5000. I have found the Kodak portra series to scan the best for me (I use mostly the 160/800). The Fuji negative films don't scan quite a smoothly as the Kodaks for me.

Brooks Gelfand , Jan 13, 2008; 01:48 a.m.

I have had very good luck with Kodak Ultra Color 100UC. It scans better than the old Portra 160, both NC and VC (IMHO).

I have not yet tried the new formulation Portra.

Bill Tuthill , Jan 13, 2008; 02:05 a.m.

At 400 speed, I'd say Kodak UltraColor 400. At 800 speed, Superia scans with vapid greens, and Fuji Pro 800Z with too much contrast, so Portra 800 would be my pic.

Chris Eastwood , Jan 13, 2008; 06:32 a.m.

Hi

I mainly photograph outdoor scenics and architecture. I've been doing fairly much exactly that, in that I didn't get a DSLR until about 2006. I used to use Provia however I've now converted over to using negatives. I've found that I get better scans of them than I do with pos.

I've been using Fuji NC (Japan name) which I understand is similar to the Pro 160C. The resolving power is reported to be similar to Provia and this fits with my tests. I find that I can scan more detail out of it than I can Provia, this might be an artifact of my scanner. I have only done side by side (same subject same lens, same camera, same as much as I can...) with 4x5 sheet with a Epson 4870 flatbed. Perhaps I might find differences with 35mm and a Nikon LS-5000. Anyway I like it a lot.

Of course with people you night prefer the Kodak for skin tones.

My testing is all put up here http://home.people.net.au/~cjeastwd/digital/

:-)

J. Harrington USA (Massachusetts) , Jan 13, 2008; 09:21 a.m.

35MM film for scanning

I'd avoid 800 altogether, use 400 only when needed and shoot 100 wherever possible. The reason? Grain and grain aliasing in scans.

Edward Ingold , Jan 13, 2008; 10:27 a.m.

There is no "best" film, other than the one you use regularly and become familiar with it's applications and quirks. There is no magic formula for scanning any negative color film other than skill and practice.

The main difference is the amount of grain and detail. I use ISO 100 for landscapes and ISO 400 for hand-held, flash and people shots (Fuji Reala and 400H respectively).

Scott Turner , Jan 13, 2008; 10:52 a.m.

I'm never sure I understand what people mean by "easy to scan" when it comes to C41. Unlike color transparencies, no color negative film will push the limits of a quality filmscanner from a technical perspective, and any of them may or may not be difficult to color balance depending on the software being used, knowledge & skills of the operator, subject matter, lighting, exposure, processing,...

What it really boils down to is - don't worry so much about what's easy to scan for C41, and go with the films that you like and work well with. Your preferences will be determined by your own style, shooting subject, grain preferences and so forth. In other words, the things that have always determined what film is "best" for you in a given situation, still do.

Scott

Roger Smith , Jan 13, 2008; 03:42 p.m.

I find Fuji 160C and 800Z particularly easy to color balance and get the contrast right. Find UC400 relatively difficult to get to look natural (jack up contrast and greens get very artifical looking, etc). Reala's low contrast gives you a lot of latitude for your shots but requires more skill figuring out how much to increase contrast.

Robert Cirillo , Jan 13, 2008; 03:43 p.m.

I have used Kodak High Definition 400 and Fuji True Definition 400 with good success. The trick is to get a film with fair saturation (not too high or low) and low contrast. The low contrast lets you get lots of information on the negative. Then you can scan it, and block up the shadows or blow out the highlights in Photoshop as you wish. You can make it look like Velvia if you want. It's easier to throw out information you don't want than to create it when it's not there.

I haven't scanned Portra, but it would probably be better than Hi Def due to it's slightly lower contrast.


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