Robin Briggs , Dec 17, 2008; 10:03 a.m.
Hello.
I am not a photographer, just the family historian/documentarian. I take a LOT of pictures. I am on the Mac platform, and I have tried to like iPhoto, since it's so well integrated with everything else and it's packaged with the OS (although I'm on an upgraded iPhoto 7.1.5 now). But iPhoto scares me - I don't like how much control the program has over file management, and I'm concerned about storing my archived photos in an iPhoto library. And how can I like a program where the only way I can rename a file is to export it, rename it, and re-import it? Yikes.
So when Lightroom 1 came out at a discounted price, I bought it. It's fine for the management side of things, but it seems like overkill for me, a non-photographer. I have a pretty basic "workflow", if you can call it that. Now I'm wondering if I keep using 1% of Lightroom, or go to some other solution.
My question is... what would you suggest for me? I don't know about much else (although Aperture sounds like it would be a lot like Lightroom in the overkill department). Do I suck it up and deal with iPhoto's limitations, since it does what I need (mostly)? Or just keep paying for a program that I will never use even a small percentage of?
Many thanks for reading.
- Robin
Ryan Russell , Dec 17, 2008; 10:14 a.m.
Try this, http://picasa.google.com/ its free and pretty straight forward. For your purpose, there are many open source/shareware programs around that would be great. I actually watched a review on youtube for a new one that looked similar to aperture with out the develop module... looked great for catologing, if I remember the name I will get back to you.
Ryan
Robin Briggs , Dec 17, 2008; 10:18 a.m.
I would love to use Picasa, but it's only for Windows. There is a "Mac Uploader", but then my photos are in the cloud somewhere - not what I was looking for. Or does the Mac Uploader for Picasa do something I'm not aware of?
Thanks.
Patrick Lavoie 

, Dec 17, 2008; 10:21 a.m.
i will get a crash course on Iphoto at my local apple store... as you said its a pretty simple program well integrated that does all you need and more..just learn how to use it in 1hre : )
Robin Briggs , Dec 17, 2008; 10:34 a.m.
So the fact that everything in iPhoto is stored within its own structure, that all photos are duplicated into a 'Modified' directory, the fact that you can't simply rename photos... Is this just how things work because I don't know how to use the program properly? or should I not care about those limitations?
Patrick Lavoie 

, Dec 17, 2008; 10:38 a.m.
Well, you got what you pay for; a simpe, easy to sue program that doestn permit you to make mistake..or a better one overkill for you liek Ligthroom.
if you ask, i would get Ligthroom eyes close, but you want something easy, Iphoto is then for you..with what you call *limitation*
Godfrey DiGiorgi
, Dec 17, 2008; 10:55 a.m.
iPhoto in its latest incarnations (iLife '08) is actually quite capable and much more robust/reliable than earlier versions were. Why are you worrying about file system management? Let it do the job for you. Organize your work with titles, tags, albums and events ... there's no need to manipulate file names until you export from the iPhoto environment to use elsewhere. Yes, there's a learning curve ... go talk to the folks at an Apple Store near you, they have people trained to educate and assist you.
That said, Lightroom is far more capable for the heavy lifting I need in terms of image management and processing. At $300, I find it inexpensive. There is also a learning curve there too ... I'm teaching a course on using Lightroom in March which will focus on aspects of its use beyond the image processing. I've already got 6 people signed up. :-)
Godfrey
Robin Briggs , Dec 17, 2008; 11:05 a.m.
Hi Godfrey,
Thanks for the reply. My biggest concern about iPhoto and file naming, etc., is that I have years worth of photos stored offline. I get nervous when I think about my photos from 2002 and finding one that is named "img_0802.jpg", or finding one in a directory that isn't intuitive to me. I like being able to organize my photos by year and month, and then naming all the photos from an event to something meaningful. To me, this insulates me against any new technology that may come up in several years. But I can certainly take a free class at the Apple store, that's not a problem.
As for Lightroom, I only paid $99 for it when it was released, so now I'm on the upgrade path and it would only cost me $99 to upgrade. From what I'm reading about the changes to how it manages offline photos, it might be worth it. But again, it seems like overkill with all the other modules.
- Robin
Garrison K.
, Dec 17, 2008; 11:07 a.m.
I'd buy a book or watch some youtube on Lightroom and slugg it out through the learning curve. You already own it and it's the superior choice of anything out there.
Patrick Lavoie 

, Dec 17, 2008; 11:07 a.m.
I like being able to organize my photos by year and month, and then naming all the photos from an event to something meaningful.
easily doable with Iphoto 08 at least : )