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Canon EF70-200/2.8L IS USM with Canon Extender EF 2x II and EF 1.4x II


by Jeff Medkeff

The Extenders

I purchased Canon's current (as of early 2005) 1.4x and 2x teleconverters for three purposes:

  • To get a bit longer reach from my kit, so that I could (hopefully) dabble in wildlife and bird photography in 2005;
  • to learn longer-lens techniques inexpensively;
  • to delay the purchase of a long telephoto until I could determine from experience what specifications I would find best.

In other words, I wanted to cheat my way to a longer lens until I decided exactly what I wanted from a long telephoto.

At the time, the longest lens in my kit was the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS L, which is a workhorse for me. Using the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters would transform this lens into the equivalent of a 98-280 f/4 and a 140-400 f/5.6, respectively.

The teleconverters are small and lightweight. The 1.4x converter is about the size of Canon's EF 50mm f/1.8 lens. The 2x converter is a little over twice that length and a little heavier. They are well-built and hold the heavy 70-200/2.8 IS rigidly. Because optical elements and their mounting hardware protrude beyond the length of the teleconverter's barrel, the teleconverters cannot physically be attached to all Canon lenses; a list of compatible lenses is maintained by Canon.

Performance at similar Focal Lengths and Ratios

For the first test, I took a photo of the eagle on her nest with the 70-200 IS, set to 200mm. The lens was mounted by its collar to a Bogen 3221 tripod and 3029 pan/tilt head, a support that is capable of holding a considerably heavier load. The Image Stabilizer was turned off. The photos were taken with a Canon 20D digital SLR, using mirror lock-up, at ISO 100. The attempt was to take all shots at the same focal length in order to compare the effect that the teleconverters have on an image at the same pixel scale. Unfortunately I missed the 200mm target by a hair when using the 1.4x converter. The "actual reported focal length" is the focal length recorded by the camera in the headers of the raw file.

The raw file was converted using Adobe Camera Raw, using identical settings for each image (these settings are Adobe's defaults, except that I converted into the sRGB color space). I then cropped the center of the picture to 640x480 pixels, and from within Photoshop I saved for web at the same jpeg quality setting for each image. None of the images were properly white balanced or corrected (daylight white balance, as shown here, left the eagle's head cool; balancing for shade left it warm; I decided not to apply a custom white balance to each image prepared for this test to save time). In all cases, the eagle is near the center of the frame.

200mm (no teleconverter), f/4

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, no teleconverter, at f/4.

190mm (1.4x teleconverter), at f/4

Above: 70-200 zoomed to the (estimated) 142mm mark, 1.4x teleconverter (for an actual reported focal length of 190mm), at f/4.

200mm (2x teleconverter) at f/5.6

Above: 70-200 zoomed to the 100mm mark, 2x teleconverter (for an actual reported focal length of 200mm) at f/5.6.

My conclusion is that the teleconverters significantly degrade the image compared to the 70-200 alone, at comparable focal lengths. Both teleconverters are used wide open in the above photo. The unconverted image is at f/4 to provide easy comparison to the 1.4x converted image, but this lens appears to be equally sharp at all focal ratios until very slow ratios introduce diffraction. Therefore the unconverted image's sharpness in the focus zone is representative of the lens' sharpness at most focal ratios.

Interestingly, the teleconverter performance above is significantly worse than when the lens is fully zoomed, as can be seen below.

Eagle photos at various f/stops:

The following shots were taken of the same nest and eagle, but from a slightly different location and during different lighting conditions. The attempt here was to determine whether the teleconverted lens had any "sweet spots" in its range of focal ratios. The teleconverters were used with the lens zoomed to the 200mm mark (giving 280mm with the 1.4x converter, and 400mm with the 2x converter). A series of shots were taken at each full stop from wide open to f/32.

1.4x Converter:

1.4x at f/4

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/4.

1.4x at f/5.6

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/5.6.

1.4x at f/8

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/8.

1.4x at f/11

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/11.

1.4x at f/16

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/16.

1.4x at f/22

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/22.

1.4x at f/32

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/32.

2x Converter:

2x at f/5.6

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/5.6.

2x at f/8

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/8.

2x at f/11

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/11.

2x at f/16

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/16.

2x at f/22

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/22.

2x at f/32

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/32.

My conclusion is that the f/1.4 teleconverter performs best at f/8 to f/11, or a stop on either side; the 2x converter appears to peak at f/11 to f/16. One of the significant problems with both converters is the conspicuous blue shade at the border between the eagle's white head and brown body (and sometimes between the head and background); also, at some focal ratios the backgrounds may not be considered pleasing.

Teleconvert, or Resample?

The question of whether to use a teleconverter, or just resample a shorter focal length image to a higher resolution, should be answered. Two of the following images were made from the 200mm image above (without teleconverter). They were processed with an s-spline algorithm with mild sharpening to a pixel scale comparable to that provided by the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters. They are placed here adjacent to the best teleconverter images to facilitate easy comparison.

1.4x Resampled vs. Teleconverted:

Resampled to 1.4x original image scale.

Above: Above: 70-200 at 200mm, no teleconverter, at f/4, resampled using s-spline to 1.4x the original image scale.

1.4x at f/8

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 1.4x (280mm) at f/8.

2x Resampled vs. Teleconverted:

Resampled to 1.4x original image scale.

Above: Above: 70-200 at 200mm, no teleconverter, at f/4, resampled using s-spline to 2x the original image scale.

2x at f/11

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with 2x (400mm) at f/11.

In both pairs of images, the comparison is favorable in areas that are not very detailed (such as the eagle's head and eye), but not favorable elsewhere. In particular, the feather edges on the eagle's back do not fare well in the resampling - both teleconverters are significantly better than the resampled image.

Crazy Talk

Sometimes you just can't resist stunts. A friend had his Canon Extender EF 2x (type I) with him, and he handed it to me to add to my own 2x converter. The two converters went on the 70-200, which was zoomed to 200mm, and I took some photos. Mathematically, this should provide about 800mm at a widest aperture of f/11, but a design specification was clearly being exceeded. The camera reports a widest available aperture of f/5.6, and the headers indicate the available focal lengths are 140-400mm. TTL metering still worked fine, of course. The image below was taken in aperture priority mode with the aperture set to f/8. Focus was manual.

1.4x and 2x at f/8

Above: 70-200 at 200mm, with two 2x (approximately 800mm) at a camera setting of f/8 (actually f16).

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Ilia Varlachkine , May 10, 2005; 04:33 A.M.

While it's difficult to judge quality of details on such small pictures, one thing is visible clearly - adding extenders increases chromatic abberations dramatically when using digital camera. It might well be that it's just due to sensor design we see those defects, while on film body they wouldn't show up. All in all it looks that upsampling is not so disatventageous in comparisson with using extenders.

Chromatic abberation became really problem for me even using fine prime lenses (24mm TS-E especially but 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8 also) on my 20D, while I haven't seen it so much peeping through 8x loupe on slides.

Juha Kivekas , May 10, 2005; 04:36 A.M.

Truly interesting results. Especially considering that in the first comparison you were actually comparing f/4 to f/5.6 to f/11 (...f/5.6 with 2x is actually f/11). This should actually favour the converters, but yet, the results with converters were apalling.

Are you sure, that focusing was perfect with the converters? I've got my doubts about the focusing quality of 30/33/10D/20D system type.

Ryan Joseph , May 10, 2005; 09:57 A.M.

Nice write up. These results are pretty interesting and just prove the general consensus that zoom lenses plus teleconverters are never that great. Anyone that recommends the 70-200 IS with a 2x TC instead of the 100-400 IS should think twice before suggesting that now.

It would have been cool if you had a 200mm F2.8 prime to compare the zooms with the TCs against, but that is really just an insane request considering the conditions of testing.

Gary Lim , May 10, 2005; 10:34 A.M.

Nice write up! Perhaps it would also be interesting to compare 70-200 f2.8 non-IS version. Apparently, it's supposed to be sharper.

Juha Kivekas , May 10, 2005; 12:14 P.M.

The MTF-curves of the IS and non-IS versions are more than practically the same. The f/4-version is optically the best in the series as it has the least number of lenses. But even it has practically the same MTF-curves at f/8 which is the correct aperture value to evaluate optics per se.

The funny thing about converters - that is by my experience - is that they seem to loose less photo quality with optically good lenses than with optically poor ones. I've got a cheap Soligor 1.7x and used with 75-300 IS USM the outcomne was practically intolerable whereas with 70-200/2.8 L IS USM the outkcome is quite acceptable. I am now planning to do some similar tests with my Soligor as done here. It only has three lenses and is the only converter that does not clash with the consumer range Canon zooms. The lenses are located deep inside the converter.

Greg Chappell , May 11, 2005; 12:28 A.M.

There's a good discussion of this exact test on the Luminous Landscape website with similar results. This past year I replaced my 70-200 f4L with a 100-400 f4.5-5.6L because I grew tired of constantly shooting sports at 200mm and having to crop my resulting images 20-40%. For someone who doesn't need the longer focal lengths that much TC's are an obvious inexpensive option, but if you're going to shoot things like birds often and want good quality images it will not be something you'd be happy with. Buy a 300mm f4L IS and a 1.4 TC and you'll be much happier with the results.

Brian Ball , May 11, 2005; 01:12 A.M.

From my experiences with the 70-200 F/4 and the 2x, I would say that I have definitely taken decent shots with the TC that I would have otherwise missed. While I have found that sharpness declines with the 2x, it is not always terrible. In terms of other issues, I've noticed more severe softening around the edges. Chromatic abberation is definitely greater, but it is often absent, nonetheless. Here's a picture of a crane that briefly interrupted my breakfast this morning (10D, f/8, 1/500, ISO 200, 400mm).

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Suhas Kulkarni , May 11, 2005; 06:19 A.M.

Nice article. I guess contrary to lot of opinions which I read here and there which mention that the lens with 2x converter is very good even compared to 100-400.

Anyone has done any research on 200 f/2.8 MKII prime lens with 2x converter? Can this combination be workable for large tame birds (pelicans, storks, egrates etc) and large animals? I know, I can't expect quality of 400 f/5.6 prime, but a wrokable solution to get 400mm reach with less cost and weight. I occasionally do magazine submission, and I shoot film.

Jeff Medkeff , May 11, 2005; 07:08 A.M.

Thanks for the comments, folks. Can't believe how fast people are jumping on this article.

Especially considering that in the first comparison you were actually comparing f/4 to f/5.6 to f/11 (...f/5.6 with 2x is actually f/11).

That is incorrect. The lens was wide open in both 200mm teleconverted shots; f/2.8 teleconverted by 1.4x is f/4, and f/2.8 teleconverted by 2x is f/5.6. All the focal ratios are as given, requiring no further math to interpret.

Also, unlike some converters on the market, these teleconverters are smart, and the camera actually displays correct (converted) focal ratios when you have one mounted. (When you have two mounted, things to go a little haywire).

Are you sure, that focusing was perfect with the converters?

Nope, I'm not certain that it was, but I have encountered no evidence to suggest anything is systematically wrong with autofocus while using the teleconverters. I've at this point shot several scenes that should have showed up a front- or back-focus issue..

It would have been cool if you had a 200mm F2.8 prime to compare the zooms with the TCs against, but that is really just an insane request considering the conditions of testing.

I'll see what I can do. As you can tell by the last image, I'm not adverse to insanity once in a while. :-)

Perhaps it would also be interesting to compare 70-200 f2.8 non-IS version.

My friend who was with me when I was shooting these images has that lens. I'm not sure he did as thorough a test as I did, but he has made a couple comments that suggest his experiences are more or less consistent with what I put forth in this report (but he has the first version of the Canon 2x teleconverter). Perhaps he will post a comment here; I know he browses photo.net from time to time.

I have definitely taken decent shots with the TC that I would have otherwise missed.

I concur. These converters are neither useless nor perfect. Stopped down, they do quite well; and they do better zoomed fully than somewhere in the middle third of the focal length range. My opinion is that upsampling does not cut it for many subjects (I'd be eager to jettison the TC's if I felt otherwise). I'm looking forward to seeing how they do on a telephoto prime; I'm guessing substantially better than on a zoom.

Bob Atkins , May 11, 2005; 12:20 P.M.

There's an article on my website that deals briefly with the 1.4x TC on the 300/4L prime, as well as performance of TCs with some other lenses including consumer zooms.

The bottom line is that sometimes a TC is no better than upsampling, but sometimes it is, even on consumer zooms.

Optical Performance of TCs

Chris P. Sampson , May 11, 2005; 01:20 P.M.

Just wanted to say thank you for this submission. I use the 70-200/4L on a 20D and sometimes wish I could zoom in a little tighter. Your tests will certainly help me make the right decision(for me) when I expand my glass collection. Cheers

randy JK , May 15, 2005; 10:20 A.M.

I have never been a fan of teleconverters on zoom lenses. Yet I have read many comments that there is little loss in image quality when using one. I think the lighting quality has a lot to do with results obtained. I don't have experience with the 2x converter but have been impressed with the 1.4x on primes like the 135L, 200L and 300f4 IS. I avoid using the converter on my 70-200 2.8 IS. Using it on an f4 lens means stopping down to at least f8-f11 for optimal results.

joachim voth , May 16, 2005; 07:33 A.M.

Well, folks, from my perspective, I think that the tests that Poelking has done on www.poelking.de are much more conclusive... you want a bit more on the type of support, the effects of mirror lockup, etc. Personally, I use the same combination, and never found image deterioration on this scale on slide film. My hunch is -- this is some quirky digital thing...

Bob - Atlanta, Georgia USA , May 19, 2005; 08:33 A.M.

Jeff, I don't understand why you didn't do the test with IS on. Neither did Michael Reichmann. The 70-200 IS is designed to allow use of IS while on a tripod. Long lens users (500 & 600) use IS all the time. Can I talk you into doing the test again using IS while on the tripod? Thanks.

Jeff Medkeff , May 31, 2005; 06:53 A.M.

Jeff, I don't understand why you didn't do the test with IS on.... Can I talk you into doing the test again using IS while on the tripod?

My reasons for not using IS, and my reasons for not being inclined to repeat the test soon, are variously:

  • It is more important that all variables are controlled in a test than that "best practices" be used to maximize results. All the images were taken under consistent conditions and they are good enough to show differences, so I'm inclined to declare 'mission accomplished' - f/stop sweet spots were found, and TCs were found not to be useless, and answering these questions to my satisfaction was my mission.
  • There is some FUD involved with IS on a tripod. My lens manual says simply that I can leave it on, suggesting I can shoot normally; I've never found this optimal. Further research reveals that using IS on a tripod requires that you hold the shutter release halfway down for one second or longer prior to the shot. Short of leaning on the shutter release the whole time, this wasn't really practical for this subject. My MO was shoot, immediately flip up the mirror, and wait until the eagle returned to (roughly) the head position shown - then fire again, right away.
  • Continued experience with this tripod, head, camera, lens, and converter does not convince me that IS makes a difference with this combination, even though I've now used IS on (with one-second delay) and off on the same subject in subsequent shots. If I had more mass, or mass farther outboard of the head, like with a 400mm or longer lens; or a weaker tripod, I would expect it to make a difference.
  • The amount of money that photo.net pays for this kind of article isn't sufficient to induce a timely re-write. If there was a fee, or if they were arranging an equipment loan, I'd have done a much more exhaustive test. As it is, both the equipment and the time are out of my pocket, and I have people paying me to take different photos with different equipment now, so it could be a while before I have a chance to repeat this.

All that said, your idea isn't actually a bad one - such a comparison should be made. There's plenty of room for others to fill this gap.

Dave Holland , October 22, 2005; 02:36 P.M.

I found this article interesting, and while playing with a new lens I did the same thing with IS on. I have the old model extenders, not version II. I used a tripod mounted Canon EF 500mm f4 IS lens on a 20D with a 1.4x extender (the left image) and a 2.0x extender (the right image). Of course the right image was the larger of the two and there was a slight difference in exposure. Both were shot at f11, with mirror lockup on, and the shutter release on timer mode. The result was obvious even before I did any photoshop manipulation, but I wanted to show you the result here. So I loaded each up in photoshop, shrank the 2.0 image, and adjusted levels (mid-slider only) to get equivalent exposure. To keep things simple I didn't adjust anything else. Then I moved the 2.0 image over so that you can see them both on the screen at the same time. Note that I took about 40 shots overall and I compared the best effort with each technique.

As you can see, the 1.4x image yields better contrast, superior detail, and an overall dramatically better result. This is not just a difference in how each was managed in photoshop because it was obvious before I did any manipulation. This is further evidence that you should leave the 2.0x extender in the bag, and use a computer to zoom and crop later.

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Gautam Biswas , May 16, 2007; 12:10 A.M.

This is a very useful review. How much does the effect of using the convertors depend on the lens ( as seen from the previous comment and the review). Does anyone have any experience of using teleconverters (both 1.4X and 2X) on the EF 400mm f5.6L lens.

Theodore Mattas , September 13, 2007; 03:27 A.M.

I have a 400mm f/5.6 L lens and can testify that in combination with the 1.4X teleconverter it can provide very very sharp images. I'm thinking of purchasing the 2X teleconverter as well, but I wait till someone who already uses this combination (400mm f/5.6 L + 2x teleconverter) leaves a positive feedback!

Prasoon Joshi , August 31, 2008; 06:03 P.M.

Just an added note:

In his book, "Nature Photography Field guide", John Shaw does not recommend using the teleconverters with zoom lenses (pages 89-90). But he also marks the Canon EOS 70 - 200mm f/2.8 lens to be an exception.

J Ellsworth , February 13, 2009; 11:51 A.M.

thanks for the review - It helped clear up a few bits of confusion about it.

Wayne Hua , May 23, 2010; 11:41 P.M.

Nice article. However, I'm surprised to see the first picture (70-200 at 200mm, no teleconverter, at f/4) has obvious blue color edge. I thought this lens should do much better at f/4.0.


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