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Comparing the Panasonic LX3, Canon G10 and Ricoh GX200

One photographer's review of advanced compact cameras by Josh Root, June 2009 (updated February 2011)


There have long been three classes of digital cameras: DSLRs, point & shoot, and what many of us call “prosumer” cameras. Prosumer cameras cover a broad range, but these are features that many models share:

  • Fixed zoom or “superzoom” lens
  • Standard DSLR style program, aperture priority, and shutter priority modes in addition to P&S “scene” modes
  • Full manual control of exposure
  • Manual focus capability
  • Hot shoe for external flash
  • Dedicated “front of lens” wide or tele converters
  • More dedicated buttons and less reliance on menus for changing camera settings

If a user is coming from a point and shoot camera to a prosumer camera, they are often are looking for:

  • A more advanced camera
  • Higher image quality
  • More manual control
  • Better image quality
  • Better response time (AF speed, shutter delay, etc)
  • Longer or wider zoom lens options

If a user is coming from a DSLR to a prosumer camera, they often are looking for:

  • The best image quality they can get out of a small sensor camera
  • Easier portability than a DSLR
  • Camera controls that are as much like a larger camera as possible (dedicated buttons not menu scrolling)
  • Quick shutter release time
  • Something more discreet than their DSLR
  • A backup camera to compliment their DSLR kit

The three cameras in this article, Panasonic LX3, Canon G10, & Ricoh GX 200, are all on the top of many people’s “current best prosumer camera” and “cameras I’m interested in” lists. Quite frankly, I heartily agree. Particularly for those DSLR and other advanced users who’s “want” list looks like the one above. Does that mean users coming from a p&s camera won’t be as well suited to these cameras? Of course not. All three of these are very good cameras for any photographer. But the fact remains that there is one glaring feature that none of these cameras have, and that is a “superzoom”. While there are many photographers who do not see this as a drawback, one of the main points of interest that I hear from photographers stepping up from p&s cameras is that they would like a 12x/14x/20x/etc zoom. They want to be able to go from wide to telephoto when shooting their child’s soccer game for example. A legitimate use of a superzoom to be sure, but none of these cameras can offer that to you. These cameras are much more suited to the photographer who wants high image quality, good low light performance, and well thought out controls in a small form factor.

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Quick Feature Comparison Chart

These are just a few of what I feel are the most relevant specifications. For full specs, please see the manufacturer websites.

 
Panasonic LX3

Canon G10

Ricoh GX200
Street Price

$500

$500

$439

Size 4.3 × 2.3 × 1.1″ (109 × 60 × 27mm) 4.30 × 3.06 × 1.81″ (109.1 × 77.7 × 45.9mm) 4.4 × 2.3 × 1″ (111.6 × 58 × 25mm)
Weight 9.1 oz (257g) 12.3 oz (350g) 7.70 oz (208 g)
Sensor 1/1.63, 10MP 1/1.7in, 14.7MP 1/1.7in, 12MP
Aspect Ratios

4:3, 3:2, & 16:9

4:3 & 16:9 4:3, 3:2 & 1:1
Zoom Lens (35mm equiv.) 24-60mm f/2-8 (wide) f/2.8-8 (tele) 28-140mm f/2.8-8 (wide) f/4.5-8 (tele) 24-72mm f/2.5-9.1 (wide) f/4.4-15.8 (tele)
Exposure Modes

Program AE, Aperture Priority AE, Shutter Priority AE, Manual, Program Shift(Program AE mode), scene modes

Program AE, Shutter Speed-Priority AE, Aperture-Priority AE, i-Contrast, Manual; AE Lock, Safety Shift, Auto ISO Shift, scene modes Auto Shooting Mode, Program Shift Mode, Aperture Priority Mode, Manual Exposure Mode, Scene Mode, scene modes
ISO settings

80/100/200/400/800/1600/3200

80/100/200/400/800/1600 64/100/200/400/800/1600
Image Stabilization

Yes, optical

Yes, optical Yes, optical
LCD size

3.0in

3.0in 2.7in
Memory Media SD, SDHC, & 50MB internal memory SD & SDHC SD, SDHC, & 54MB internal memory

Appearance and Feel

Panasonic LX3

If you don’t count the lens barrel, the LX3 is just about an inch shorter than a pack of cigarettes and the same height and thickness. The lens barrel adds in another 3/4 of an inch on the front. Aside from a gold “lumix” badge in the lower right front, the camera is mostly black plastic with “muted chrome” accents and buttons and is fairly understated and unremarkable looking. Aside from the hot-shoe, most people would confuse it with a point and shoot if given the chance. One drawback is that the LX3’s the protruding lens barrel makes it a tight fit for any pocket other than those in baggy jeans or coats. This is slightly annoying because it’s not a camera that is really big enough to need it’s own case or bag, but it’s not small enough to be a “pocket and take everywhere” camera. However, I’d still have to say that the LX3 is a fine size/shape overall. The only real drawback is that it’s handgrip is pretty small and isn’t deep enough. Users with small hands will still be able to make use of it, but those with larger hands may find it almost useless.

Canon G10

With it’s built-in optical viewfinder, visible flash, knobs, and traditional shaped shutter button, the Canon G10 is the most “serious camera” looking of these three cameras. Aside from lettering on the buttons, the camera is almost all black. There is a “Canon” logo on the front in white and a small silver “G10” in the opposite corner. The G10’s knurled knobs give the camera a “tough” look that I think works well and stands out from other cameras in this price range. The G10 is a bigger and heavier camera than either of the other two and this is either a bonus or a drawback. The G10 is absolutely not a “pocket” camera. You are going to need a strap or small bag, or a pocket in a backpack to carry it around. However, it’s little bit of extra body size means that it is much easier to use for just about any size user. The extra size also means that the G10 has a larger handgrip. While it isn’t particularly deep, it is tall and wide enough for most any size hands. It is also covered with a slightly grippy textured rubber that is a definite advantage in holding them camera.

Ricoh GX200

Predominately black, aside from nameplate and “GX200” badging, the GX200 is both a slightly odd and completely normal looking camera. Somewhat reminiscent of those cheap “pro camera” point and shoot giveaways you got for subscribing to a magazine back in the 80’s, it has a “prism hump” like protrusion at the top under the hotshoe where the on-camera flash is stored. This seems a bit out of place when you consider tht otherwise, the GX200 looks almost exactly like one of Ricoh’s high end “GR” line of film p&s cameras (great cameras, by the way). Thinner and shorter than either of the G10 or the LX3, the GX200 is slightly longer than both as well. The length doesn’t change the fact that the GX200 is the most pocketable of the three cameras. I didn’t have a problem carrying it around in jeans or even slacks. Though depending on the size of your pants pockets, you may look a little odd with a large lump on your thigh. The smaller size of the camera might make you think that it would be harder to hold. But Ricoh has smartly given the GX200 a well designed handgrip. Deeper and wider than even the grip on the G10, it more than makes up for the fact that the GX200 is more compact than other cameras in it’s class.

Comparison

How much do looks matter for a camera? For most people, and rightly so, very little. However, for the sake of discussion, going on straight aesthetics the G10 is probably the best looking camera. It makes me think it would be used by some sort of digital age photojournalist with it’s metal knurled knobs and “all business” look. But for sheer “that camera doesn’t look like much so I’m going to not pay attention to it” stealth, the LX3 and the GX200 are better choices.

As far as size, all three cameras are completely usable. The G10 and the GX200 are easier to hold than the LX3 for people with larger fingers/hands. But that having been said, I have yet to hear of anyone who couldn’t use the LX3 due to hand size. Still, all things being equal, if you’ve got mitts the size of bear-paws, you might give the G10 a try rather than the other two. If you are looking for something that slips in and out of a pocket easily, the GX200 is the camera for you. The LX3’s lens barrel (and various switches) get caught unless your pockets are of a decent size and the G10 is simply not a pocket size camera at all.

Handling and Use

Panasonic LX3

The LX3’s handling is surprisingly good for a small camera. The mode selection dial on the top of the camera is a nice touch and makes for quick changes. The “multi function joystick” is well designed and allows for easy navigation of all of the most important camera settings. Pressing and holding the “Multi Function joystick” for about a second and a half brings up the “Q-Menu”, which I assume is short for “quick menu”. It is just that—a quick way to access options like ISO, resolution, AF mode, white balance, and more. This works really well and the “joystick” aspect it is well designed and easy to control. I virtually never have to dig through any menus to access my most used settings. A dedicated AE/AF lock button is a nice touch. And finally, the physical switched for aspect ratio and AF mode harkens back to the days when we didn’t have to mash buttons and scroll through menus to change a camera setting.

While I stand by my praise of the mode selection dial, the fact is that it is far too easy to spin. I frequently find it rolled to another mode setting when pulling it out of a pocket or case. This could cause someone to miss a great shot by being stuck in “manual” when you really needed to be in “program”. It’s an easy enough issue to fix, just make sure you check the mode dial every time when you pull the camera out. It’s also something that should have been designed better. The same can be said for the aspect ratio and AF switches. I have to keep track of them every so often to make sure they aren’t on a setting that will cause me trouble at an inopportune time. In a similar vein, the LX3’s physical “play/record” switch means that you can’t be reviewing images, see something happening in front of you, tap the shutter button so the camera jumps back into “record”, and then take the photo. You have to remember to move the switch from “play” back to "record. This is not a huge deal, but it’s a bad move on Panasonic’s part. A vast majority of photographers have gotten used to being able to jump from “play” to “record” at the drop of a hat. I applaud Panasonic’s drive to create a more physical camera. In this instance, however, I think they went too far.

The LX3’s AF is pretty decent. Not blazingly fast, but not slow at all. Though every so often it will seem like the AF has gotten much slower and you will notice that the AF switch has gotten bumped to “macro + AF”. However, another feature of the LX3 is the options that it gives for AF settings. The standard Face Detection and Multi-Area AF options are there. Single Area “high-speed” speeds up AF significantly by giving up use of a wider AF sensor pattern. Also, AF tracking is a neat option that allows you to set focus lock on an subject (a child’s face for example) and the camera will track that subject and keep it in focus. I have only used it a little bit so far, but it appears to be accurate and useful, though one has to remember that there are limits to any small camera’s tracking ability. This isn’t a Canon EOS 1D MKIII. Finally, the LX3 makes very little noise when zooming or focusing, which is a good thing.

Canon G10

It’s hard to argue with the fact that many people find the G10 to be a wonderful compact camera to use in terms of handling. The main reasons for this are the excellent metal dials that change three of the most used settings on the camera ISO, exposure compensation, and shooting mode. For my shooting, the ISO dial is worth it’s weight in gold and the exposure compensation dial isn’t far behind. The are nicely knurled and are easy to adjust with one thumb. While it would be possible to have the same sort of “accidentally bumped” problem that you can have with the LX3’s dial, the fact that the G10 is not a pocket camera (and its knobs have stronger detents) probably make this a non-issue. The more traditionally shaped shutter release also lends itself to easy of handling on the G10. Its shutter button feels a lot more like a “real” camera than a compact one. And as if that weren’t enough, the G10 has a scroll dial on the back along the lines of the scroll dials on Canon’s DSLR cameras, which is a nice addition.

Downsides to the G10’s handling are few, but nothing is perfect. As good as the ISO/exp/mode dials are, there are still more than a few functions that require button presses and scrolling to access. There is a “custom shortcut” button that can be user assigned, but it’s choices are limited to 9 choices with only White Balance and ND filter being particularly valuable for most photographers. The G10 also takes a little memorization to use some of it’s manual features. As there are times (switching from aperture to shutter in manual exposure) when it isn’t clear from the screen what button you are supposed to press to make which change. The G10’s viewfinder has gotten so small, squinty, and inaccurate as to really be useless in my opinion. But if you want one of these cameras and a built in viewfinder is a requirement, then the G10 is your only choice.

AF is quick and quiet (though zooming does create slightly more noise). You get a few AF choices, with Face Detection being the one that most people will use if they aren’t using the default mode. you can move the AF point all around and also increase or decrease it’s size a bit. Nothing particularly special in any of this except for the fact that it is a solid design that works well. Canon doesn’t tend things just to change them and users of older “G” series cameras should feel right at home.

GX200

The GX200 has to be one of the most customizable compact cameras I have gotten to use. There are two different custom buttons with 19 choices each (most all of them useful functions) and 3 different custom mode dial settings. It also gives you the choice of zooming regularly or by 35mm focal length equivalents. The GX200 has a rocker joystick that functions like the LX3’s “multi function joystick” although it only operates left-right rather than in up-down-left-right. But you can choose five different settings from a list of 19 to quickly access and adjust via this method. If you can’t find a setup you like for the GX200’s buttons, you really aren’t trying very hard.

However, many custom choices does not a perfect camera make. As I said, the rocker joystick isn’t really a joystick at all, since it only operates left-right. This is really too bad. As you have to make your choice of function to change with it, then change to the four-way selector to change the setting. It would have been 100% better to have been able to do it all on one controller like the LX3. The GX200’s zoom controller is stuck in a bad spot on the back upper-right of the camera. It’s hard to reach with your thumb and is not nearly as convenient as the ring-around-the-shutter zoom controllers that the G10 and LX3 have.

While not horribly slow or hunting, I did find the GX200’s AF to be slower than the other two cameras. Perhaps more annoying, the AF also seems a bit louder. Though it’s not the kind of thing that can probably be heard by anyone other than the photographer. Far worse is the fact that the GX200 freezes the image for a second when achieving focus lock. This can cause problems if you are trying to for a specific moment or are panning along with a moving subject. It’s not a deal-killer, but when coupled with the slightly slower AF, it kind of annoyed me. The GX200 doesn’t have face-detection or tracking AF modes, but it does have a hyperfocal “snap” mode. The “snap” mode is a holdover from Ricoh’s film cameras and it is an absolutely great feature for a compact camera to have. It pre-sets the focus at about 2.5 meters (~8 ft) and this allows everything from 2 meters to infinity to be in focus. It’s a really handy setting for street photography as it speeds up camera operation significantly (and gets rid of the “freeze frame” issue).

Comparison

It’s hard to find too much fault with the Canon G10 in terms of handling and use. It’s just a really well done camera in most all the important ways. But the LX3 and GX200 both bring a lot to the table as well. The LX3 has a well designed multi-function controller for quick access to camera settings and an innovative AF tracking system. The Ricoh is more of a mixed bag with the good being its significant customization options and the bad being things like its bad zoom controller location and “freeze-frame” AF performance. For the sake of crowning a winner in this area, I’ll go with the G10. But none of these cameras is badly designed and I think you will find fans of all three claiming that their favorite is the real winner for whatever reason.

Modes, Metering, and Exposure

Panasonic LX3

The Panasonic has no less than 23 different “scene” modes. Everything from full auto to “food/party” to “baby 1” (and for your second child it has “baby 2”). Quite frankly, they are mostly useless, particular to advanced photographers. I think most users of the LX3 will just keep the camera set on the standard P/A/S/M choices.

Metering gives you three choices: Intelligent Multiple (camera looks at the whole image), center-weighted (camera looks at the center area more than the edges/corners), or spot (camera looks at the very center part of the image). All are very effective and all work well for what they are supposed to do.

Overall exposure is very good. The LX3 has ISO options of 80/100/200/400/800/1600/3200/Auto and ISO noise is really good for this class of camera. I’ve seen tests on a couple other sites that say the ISO noise is just about in line with other cameras in it’s class. But I’ve got to say, and perhaps this is personal choice, I think the LX3 does a better job than the tests give it credit for. The LX3 noise looks much more like film grain to me than the chroma (color blotches) heavy noise that you usually see out of small sensor cameras. And due to the fact that Panasonic didn’t cram as many megapixels as they could manage onto the LX3’s sensor, image detail holds up much better at higher ISO levels then with other cameras in its class. Overall, I’m very pleased with its ISO noise performance and it’s the first small sensor camera that I haven’t been afraid to shoot at higher ISO settings. White balance (WB) works well enough, though the camera had a bit of trouble when set to “auto” with the standard difficult light sources such as indoor fluorescent and incandescent. Switching to the fixed “incandescent” WB setting helps, but not as much as I would like. In what I find to be an odd choice for Panasonic, the LX3 doesn’t have a “fluorescent” white balance setting. Although, it does have two different “custom” settings. So that is kind of handy if you regularly shoot in weird lighting.

Canon G10

The Canon G10 has 18 scene modes. None of them are particularly out of the ordinary (sunset, snow, fireworks, etc). Is this important? No, as most advanced photographers won’t be using the scene modes very much anyway. Sure, it’s handy to have a quick way of forcing the camera to use the flash and a long shutter speed for a night portrait. But most all of these modes can be simulated by using the standard shooting modes with exposure comp and aperture/shutter priority. It is odd that Canon has hidden it’s ISO 3200 setting in the scene mode list. I am left wondering if that is because it isn’t REALLY a true ISO setting or if the quality is just so bad that they didn’t want to make it a real ISO setting on the ISO dial.

The G10 offers three metering modes: evaluative (which is linked to the face detection AF if it is active), center weighted, and spot (linked to the center AF marker or to the face detection AF). All are effective and work well for what they are supposed to do.

Overall exposure is very good. One of the hallmarks of the Canon powershot line, and the “G” series in particular, is that their auto-exposure is better than average. Sure, the cameras can be fooled by strong backlight or by a very light or dark subject, but there are few cameras out there that won’t be fooled in that situation. In general, the G10’s meter does and admirable of just working like it is supposed to and accurately reading the light in the scene.

The G10 has ISO settings of 80/100/200/400/800/1600/Auto (we’re ignoring the 3200 since Canon itself ignores it by leaving it of the ISO dial) and ISO noise is decent for this class of camera. In fact, at it’s lowest settings, one might be surprised at how smooth and detailed the G10 images are. But like many small sensor cameras, things do fall apart once you get up past 400 ISO. The 800 and 1600 (and 3200?) settings are usable…sort of. For snapshot prints or web use, you will probably be satisfied. But for crucial detail or large print work, you have to accept the limitations of a small sensor camera. White balance (WB) works well enough, though the camera had a bit of trouble when set to “auto” with the standard difficult light sources such as indoor fluorescent and incandescent. Switching to the fixed “incandescent” WB setting helps significantly for tungsten lighting. Fluorescent is always a crapshoot considering how many different fluorescent light types there are. The G10 does offer two different fixed “fluorescent” settings to help and deal with this issue. Which will be welcome for anyone who has to deal with that ugly light source on a regular basis.

Ricoh GX200

The Ricoh GX 200 has eight scene modes. Half of them are the normal sports/portrait/etc and the other half are more specialized skew-correction/zoom-macro/etc modes. This is actually a shame. Because if ever a prosumer camera could have used a few more scene modes, it is the GX200. For some reason, despite all of their other great decisions, the Ricoh crew didn’t bother to include a shutter priority mode on the GX200. There is the standard P/A/M but no “S”. I find this very strange and a little annoying.

Like the other two cameras in this article, metering gives you three choices: Multi-light, center-weighted, or spot. All are fairly effective and all work well for what they are supposed to do.

The GX200 has ISO settings of 64/100/200/400/800/1600/Auto. While noise is well controlled in the 64-200 range, the GX200 really falls down in the 400-1600 range. The image noise quickly becomes unacceptable and detail is lost. This is a real shame as the overall image quality of he lens/camera is really very high. Low ISO images from the GX200 can really pop and look as wonderful. But the higher ISO images look blotchy and muddy, particularly at 800 or 1600 ISO. White balance was decent on the GX200, but I felt that it ranged to the cool side more often that I wanted. This may be a personal preference but others have commented about it as well in various forums, so I don’t think I’m the only one. However, another one of the GX200’s nifty features is that you can fine tune WB and with a little fiddling, any color cast can be adjusted for (should you wish to do so).

Overall, more than the other two cameras, the GX200 benefits from shooting in RAW. For those of you who always shoot in RAW, this won’t be a big deal. But for many photographers, a camera like this is one that gets used in JPEG mode more often than not. It’s for serious photography, yes, but for serious photography that they don’t want to have to work on as much as they work on their DSLR images. Like the cameras themselves, this kind of shooting is halfway between p&s and DSLR for many people. But using RAW with the GX200 gives you the best option to control noise and adjust white balance if needed. If you are shooting at anything higher than ISO 200 with the GX200, you might want to think about it. The camera itself is really well designed and has a few amazing features you aren’t going to see elsewhere. But it’s a shame that I have ended up talking this much about the image noise issue. Perhaps with a few less megapixles crammed onto the sensor, Ricoh could avoid this issue entirely.

Comparison

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I don’t like scene modes. I don’t think I’ve ever used more than just a couple of them on any camera I have used and I have a feeling that I’m not alone in that regard. Far too often camera makers seem to be thinking “Well the consumers aren’t using the scene modes because we aren’t offering them the right options. So let’s make MORE scene mode options!”. Thankfully, users of these cameras can (and will) largely ignore the scene modes. They aren’t what most advanced users care about and won’t be what they use. The Standard P/A/S/M modes will be more than enough for many of us.

At low ISO levels, image quality is about the same between the three. If I had to choose, I would probably say that the GX200 and the G10 have a slight edge over the LX3. But all three are more than acceptable. At high ISO levels the LX3 beats the G10 by a decent amount and the GX200 by a mile. If low light shooting is important to you, the LX3 is your best bet out of these three. White balance has its ups and downs across the board with these three, but overall performance is up to par with anything else out there. The G10 and the LX3 are a bit better than the GX200 in this area. Though anyone willing to fiddle with the GX200’s white balance compensation can probably negate that advantage.

As for a winner here, it kind of depends on what you find important. If low ISO is the only thing that matters, take a look at the other camera features and decide from there. If high ISO matters, I strongly suggest the LX3. If shutter-priority is something you use a lot, stick to the G10 and the LX3 for that option. There are any number of ways this list could go on. Bottom line is is that all three cameras are capable of creating some very nice images. There are a few specific situations that give each camera trouble, so you should take that into account when choosing.

Interesting Features

Please Note: This section is my way of talking about various features in these cameras that you might not find in other cameras. While these features might get mentioned in other areas of the article as well, I thought they were important enough to mention on their own as well.

Panasonic LX3

  • 24-60/2-2.8 lens – While we are seeing more and more compact cameras with 28mm wide angle lenses, very few have gone as far as a 24mm lens. This is something that should not be overlooked. For many photographers who shoot in tight quarters, the difference between 28mm and 24mm is significant. It can be the difference between a great shot and one where you are cutting heads and legs out of the frame. Also not to be overlooked is the fact that the LX3’s lens is a very fast f/2 on the wide end and a still fairly fast f/2.8 on the telephoto end. These large maximum apertures coupled with the LX3’s high ISO performance make this camera a serious contender for anyone who is looking to shoot available light images indoors.
  • High ISO performance – The LX3 has some of the best high ISO performance I have seen out of a small sensor camera. Chroma noise (the blotchy color noise) is especially well controlled which allows what noise is left (luminance) to appear more like film grain. No small sensor camera is going to measure up to a full-frame, APS-C, or even four-thirds sensor in this area. But, to my eyes, the LX3 does a better job than any other camera in it’s class.
  • Multi-Function controller/Q-menu – Compromises always have to be made when creating a compact camera. No matter how much people like me complain in reviews and articles, there just isn’t any space to create a dedicated button or dial for every important camera setting like there is on a larger camera. Some camera companies take the easy way out and bury advanced functions under a pile of menus and scrolling, some offer various options for custom buttons, and some like Panasonic try to come up with a new interface altogether. The LX3’s multi-function controller and Q-menu work well as a way to access the camera functions that you are most likely to need while shooting.
  • Full-resolution aspect ratio choices – Many cameras offer various aspect ratio choices these days, particularly with the increasing popularity of widescreen 16:9 HDTV’s. But typically, these are just cropped versions of the camera’s native 4:3 or 3:2 aspect ratio. In other words, you might as well be shooting in the native resolution because you could make the 16:9 version yourself with a little cropping in Photoshop. The LX3 however, is designed so that you are getting the maximum resolution out of the sensor for each of the three aspect ratios. That means that you are getting an image with more resolution on the long end with the 16:9 than with the 4:3, but with more resolution on the short end on the 4:3 than on the 16:9. For anyone who likes to use different aspect ratios, this is a big deal and shouldn’t be ignored when choosing a camera.
  • AF tracking – The ability for a camera’s autofocus to track a moving subject has been around for a decade at least now. What hasn’t been available is the ability for a user to tel the camera “this is my subject, focus on it no matter what movement the camera or subject does”. The LX3’s ability to do this is great for subjects like dogs or children who, even when sitting still, don’t really stop moving. It isn’t perfect, and the camera can get fooled. But it’s still a great option to have.
  • Built in Memory – I’ll admit it, I have often passed over “internal memory” as something I care about. But more than once while testing these cameras have I run out the door and forgotten the memory card for one reason or another. This isn’t something I normally do, but the process of shooting with three different cameras all the time left me pulling cards in and out and downloading much more chaotically than I normally would have. The LX3’s internal memory saved me a few times when I took the camera out to photograph something and realized there was no card in there. 50MB doesn’t give you much room for images, particularly at maximum resolution. But you would be surprised at how useful it can be in a pinch.

Canon G10

  • Dedicated ISO dial – ISO is frequently one of the most adjusted camera settings for many photographers. The fact that you can do it in just a fraction of a second with the G10’s ISO dial is a pretty amazing thing. It takes me longer to adjust ISO on my Canon 5D DSLR than it does to adjust on the G10.
  • Dedicated exposure compensation dial – Again, like the ISO dial, it takes me longer to adjust exposure compensation on a DSLR than it does on the G10. This is another of the settings most frequently adjusted by many photographers and having a dedicated dial for it is a welcome design choice.
  • Optical viewfinder – It’s small, it’s squinty, and it’s not nearly 100% coverage. But if you want an optical viewfinder built into your camera, this is one of the last high quality camera lines in this class to offer one.
  • Cross platform battery – It may seem like a small thing, but the fact that the G10’s battery is shared with other cameras in Canon’s digital camera lineup, particularly some DSLRs, is a big deal. Most, if not all, serious photographers will have a prosumer camera in addition to a DSLR. So the ability to share batteries between those cameras can be very useful and economical.

Ricoh GX200

  • Split AE/AF area – Sometimes a camera company comes up with a feature that makes you say “I’ve been waiting for someone to do that!” Ricoh has just that kind of feature with the GX200’s ability to set the AF point in one area and the AE area in another. Particularly when shooting wide angle, this feature really gives you some interesting creative options.
  • Fixed focal length zoom stops – Many of us often get used to shooting at specific focal lengths. Our photography just seems to work better at 35mm or 50mm or whatever. With SLR zooms, you can typically look at lens barrel markings to get an idea of where you are in the zoom range. But with most compact digitals, you have no idea. The GX200 changes that with a setting that allows you to zoom in steps through the most common focal lengths in it’s zoom range. You do lose the ability to set in between focal lengths, but that is a small price to pay to know that you are shooting at your favorite focal length.
  • 24-72mm zoom lens – Many photographers consider 24-70mm as their “go to” lens for almost anything. Sure, there may be better lenses for a given situation. But if stuck with one lens and forced to shoot a job, a lot of us would want our 24-70mm zoom attached on our cameras. And like the LX3, it is worth noting that 24mm is still a rare thing on a compact camera and can really help out in a cramped shooting environment.
  • Multiple custom function buttons – No camera is perfect for every photographer. But one thing that can help a camera be a better fit for every photographer is the ability to decide what function a particular button should control. The GX200 offers more options in this area than most other cameras in its class.

*Built in “bubble level” – A very interesting feature of the GX200 is the fact that it offers a built in indicator to let the photographer know if the camera is level or not. This works in both vertical and horizontal orientations and is one of those “well isn’t that handy!” features that doesn’t make or break a camera, but is really nifty to have.

  • Built in Memory – I’ll admit it, I have often passed over “internal memory” as something I care about. But more than once while testing these cameras have I run out the door and forgotten the memory card for one reason or another. This isn’t something I normally do, but the process of shooting with three different cameras all the time left me pulling cards in and out and downloading much more chaotically than I normally would have. The GX200’s internal memory saved me a few times when I took the camera out to photograph something and realized there was no card in there. 54MB doesn’t give you much room for images, particularly at maximum resolution. But you would be surprised at how useful it can be in a pinch.

Comparison

It is hard to pick a winner here because so much will be placed on what a specific photographer is going to be shooting and therefore, what they will find interesting. But I’d have to say that while the G10 and the LX3 are impressive cameras with solid performance, I would have to say that the GX200 has them both beat in terms of interesting functions and advantages. A bubble level built into the camera, how good of an idea is that?

Accessories

Panasonic LX3

Panasonic offers four specific accessories for the LX3:

  • DMW-LW46 Wide Conversion Lens
  • DMW-LA4 Conversion Lens Adaptor
  • DMW-VF1 External Optical Viewfinder
  • DMW-CLX3 Leather Case

The wide conversion lens has a 0.75x magnification factor. Which turns the LX3’s 24mm lens into an 18mm lens. However, like many lenses of this type, it is pretty large and bulky. The wide lens requires the use of the Conversion Lens Adapter in order to be able to attach it to the LX3. The nice thing about the itis that you can also use it to attach filters to the camera. The external optical viewfinder is an interesting idea that may appeal to users who like the LX3 but can’t stand the fact that it does not have an optical viewfinder. It is a hotshoe mounted VF with brightlines for the LX3’s 24mm lens. However, it’s usefulness is lessened by the fact that you have to guess at coverage for anything other than the widest 24mm setting.

Canon G10

Canon offers three specific accessories for the G10:

  • Deluxe Soft Case PSC-5100
  • Conversion Lens Adaptor LA-DC58K
  • Tele Converter TC-DC58D

As with the LX3 the tele lens requires the use of the conversion lens adapter in order to be able to attach it to the G10. The nice thing about it is that you can also use it to attach filters to the camera. The conversion lens adapter is a two piece design for some reason. I’m not really sure why Canon chose to do this, as more weak links are never welcome in design. The teleconverter has a 1.4x magnification factor. Though I do not know if it works through the whole zoom range. Many teleconverters like these do not. But I wasn’t able to get my hands on the TC-DC58D to test for myself.

Ricoh GX200

Ricoh offers six specific accessories for the GX200:

  • Electronic Viewfinder VF-1
  • Automatic Opening/Closing Lenscap LC-1
  • Hood & Lens/Filter Adapter HA-2
  • Wide Angle Conversion Lens DW-6
  • Tele Conversion Lens TC-1
  • Soft Carrying Case SC-45

As with both other cameras, the accessory lenses require the use of the lens adapter in order to be able to attach them to the GX200. The nice thing about it is that you can also use it to attach filters to the camera. The lens adapter comes with a hood, a nice touch not often included with adapters for this class of camera. The wide lens has an aprox. 0.8x magnification factor and turns the 24mm lens into a 19mm lens. The tele lens has an aprox. 1.87x magnification factor and turns the 72mm lens into a 135mm lens. One nice thing is that the wide lens is much smaller than other conversion lenses for prosumer cameras. It is much easier to carry around and doesn’t overweight or unbalance the camera very much.

The electronic viewfinder is a particularly interesting way of giving users the option of using a viewfinder, without having to build one into the camera or relying on optical VF’s that do not zoom. The VF-1 slides into the GX200’s hotshoe and connects with a mini data connection that is located on the back plate directly under the shoe. There is an VF/EVF button adjacent to that data connection that allows switching between the LCD and the attached EVF. In use, you get the exact same view and information in the EVF as you had set up to show on the LCD. The quality is not as good as the stellar EVF in the Panasonic G1/GH1 cameras. But it is very usable and a far cry from the low resolution EVFs of the past. one nice feature is that the VF-1 can tilt up to a vertical orientation so you can look down into it for low-angle shots. It’s not quite a waist level finder, but it’s still pretty neat.

For two things that are typically afterthoughts in camera design, the GX200 soft case and lenscap are actually quite interesting. The lenscap bayonets onto the same ring that the conversion lens adapter uses. Once on, it has a sort of “leaf petal” system on springs that allow the lens to extend through and then retract to be covered up again. It’s really quite clever and solves the annoying problem of turning the camera on for a shot, then missing the shot because you forgot to take the cap off and are getting an error message instead. The soft case is somewhat unremarkable except for the important fact that the Ricoh designers were smart enough to design it so that it could be used with the VF-1 attached (or not). It works quite well and might be worth buying if you intend to use the VF-1 regularly.

Comparison

The GX200 is the obvious winner in terms of accessories. Both for the fact that it is the only one of the three cameras to have both a tele and a wide lens and for the fact that the VF-1, the automatic lenscap, and the soft case are all well designed accessories. It’s really nice when companies come up with something new that is obviously designed from a photographer’s point of view.

What’s the Bottom Line Josh?

In many ways, you can’t make a bad choice between these three cameras. Each of them has a strong set of advantages and all show the kind of innovation and quality that comes when products are well designed. Of course, nothing in life is perfect, and considering their weak points will be equally important. Overall, like many of these conversations, your specific needs will define which camera is best for you.

Panasonic LX3

A great camera for someone who needs a wide fast lens. Anyone who wants to be able to shoot in available light and high ISO levels would be wise to consider the LX3. Its handgrip isn’t the best for large fingers in addition, it’s too large for the average pocket. Not to mention the fact that even when you do put it in a pocket, you are likely to bump various switches or spin the mode dial by accident. But the proof is in the images. The LX3 handles well and has an impressively designed system for accessing common camera settings. Exposure and white balance perform well and high ISO performance is very impressive. Overall, my personal favorite of the bunch.

Canon G10

An all around solid camera. The G10 is one of those “can’t really go wrong” cameras. It might not be perfect for everyone, but it probably won’t be bad for anyone. Canon’s G cameras have been great performers for years now and the G10 is no exception. Easy to hold with excellent physical knobs for frequently used mode, ISO, and exposure compensation functions. Image quality is good, high ISO noise is good as well. But it’s a bit larger and heavier than the other cameras, it doesn’t have a very wide or fast lens, ISO tops out at 1600 and It doesn’t really have any features that push the envelope. But like I said, you aren’t likely to be disappointed with the G10 in a general sense. A good choice for those who need the larger size and/or don’t have any specific needs that could be filled by one of the other cameras.

Ricoh GX200

The GX200 is the most innovative and feature rich of the three cameras here. It also happens to be the most pocketable. Features like the built in level, an external electronic viewfinder, and the ability to split the AE/AF points are all very clever. Add onto that the GX200’s significant customization capabilities plus its useful accessories, and you’ve got a camera that should please a lot of serious photographers. But image noise is a serious problem in the higher ISO range and white balance isn’t the greatest. Shooting in RAW can help both of these issues significantly. But a camera that requires you to increase your workflow to catch up to its competitors isn’t the best way to win fans. That having been said, at the lower ISO levels and in outdoor lighting, the camera can be stunning. I can see the GX200 being an excellent lightweight camera for a landscape or “outdoor environment” photographer.

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Original text ©2009 Josh Root. Photographs ©2009 Josh Root

Article revised February 2011.

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al Farrob , July 02, 2009; 12:45 P.M.

Just a little correction, the lx3 max aperture at wide 24mm is f/2.0, not 2.8.

Good article

Jeroen Wesdorp , July 02, 2009; 01:47 P.M.

Thank you for this fine and extensive review!

Just one comment. In my experience, the LX3 DOES allow you to switch quickly between record and play modes. At least, my LX3 lets me do that just fine. Despite the physical record-play toggle. If the camera is in record mode, simply press the fn-key (or arrow-down) and you're in review mode. Hit the shutter (or again arrow-down) and - hey presto - straight back to capturing that amazing split-second image!

If I understand your point correctly, though. I'm a bit puzzled as to why this seems to be overlooked on so many sites. Makes you wonder...

Anyway, coming from Olympus OM-1 and Mju II (Stylus epic), I find this a great camera! Although after 6 months I have still to have the first real life prints made. The wide angle, low light performance and pano features work really well. If only I could enlarge all of my pockets...

Take care,

Ton Mestrom , July 02, 2009; 05:57 P.M.

Good article. I have to say that I don't know the Ricoh well but I tried the G10. From a design and buildquality point of view I wouldn't hesitate but I'm far more critical about it's noise performance than you are here. I've bought the LX3 and even with fairly big hands it's easy to work. Have prints up to 30x40 cm and frankly I am surprised how good they look. True it isn't a fullsensor camera but the results are certainly impressive. Despite it's obvious limitations and high price I bought the viewfinder and prefer to have it on. Good camera for on the street.

Steve Patriquen , July 03, 2009; 03:09 A.M.

I've got the LX3 while a couple of friends have the G10 (which I affectionately refer to as "The Brick") and another has the Ricoh.

For me, the Canon is just too big. You may as well carry a DSLR with the commensurate improvement in results as lug something as large as the G10. Canon came back from the "no RAW" fringe, but it's still huge and the dropping of CF cards (so it could play backup) is a mystery.

I've had a few Ricohs and I must say they are innovative and offer excellent service. Unfortunately, they have consistent noise problems (even at low ISO). I actually found a Ricoh exec at Photokina and told him I liked their cameras, but they had better do something about the noise or they were doomed. I don't think he appreciated my comments :-)

Your comments are valid on the LX3. The Mode switch changing itself is a problem on many P&S cameras (I always worried the one on the Canon S70 would just snap off). To see how to do it properly, look at the new (not P&S) Olympus E-P1. The Panasonic's optional optical viewfinder is more expensive than an average P&S camera. How anyone can charge $200 for a non-optical P&S VF is beyond me. You'd think they had a partnership with Leica, or something...

I find the Manual mode on the LX3 to be very intuitive to use and in any sort of serious shooting, I use manual with live histogram display with excellent results.

Patrick Giagnocavo , July 03, 2009; 09:05 A.M.

I would have liked a little more info on how good you feel the lenses are on each camera. Doesn't the LX3 have a Leica lens, which is something they feel is a selling point? A simple test for barrel or pincushion distortion at the widest angle would be good.

Mark Brigham , July 03, 2009; 11:09 A.M.

Proud owner of a G10. I like the camera a lot, but it does get noisy at ISOs of 400 or more. Much more noise than my 20D SLR, but I suppose that's to be expected in a small sensor camera. As far as build quality, it's great. I see no advantage to get the Panasonic because it has a Leica lens--Canon's lenses are excellent, and it's not like a person could dismount that Leica lense and mount it on an M6. The wider angle and faster lens are worth very serious consideration, though, and if it's less noisy than G10 at higher ISO, then you have yourself a deal.

Howard Perks , July 03, 2009; 03:20 P.M.

I love my G10 in every way except one - the optical viewfinder is very small and inaccurate at all focal lengths. It lets the rest of the camera down. I agree it's not a true 'pocket' camera but its pro feel, ergonomic design and quality output more than makes up for this. Would I swap it? No. Hopes for the G11? A longer zoom to complement the new 28mm equivalent wide end, and really good optical viewfinder so at times it can be used like a Leica type rangefinder camera.

Hadi Habib , July 04, 2009; 04:00 A.M.

Canon G10 all the way!
Why would anyone go & buy anything other than a Canon, especially if its in the same price range?
You simply can't go wrong with a Canon.
But I guess the competition needs to be there, to put the pressure on Canon producers, to uphold their long running tradition of quality.
Bought it as soon as it was released.
No issues yet ...
Except one ...

I'm way too addicted to my Canon 5D, so I don't use the G10 often enough, haha.
Great article, nonetheless, made me feel good that other professionals agree with me.
Salute!
- Hadi Habib

Thomas Vetter , July 04, 2009; 07:13 P.M.

Josh - Outstanding thorough, practical, and objective review. Without sounding too philosophical, like life, cameras are full of compromises.

I am a longtime Nikon 35mm SLR user, who is a late comer to digital cameras, having used a film/slide scanner to import into Photoshop for several years now. After over a year of pushing a Canon PowerShot SD800IS (Digital Elph) to its limits, I have come to appreciate the merits of a digital camera. I do still miss the tactile experience of manually focusing a Nikkor lens on an F3HP and creating an image. I eventually will buy a digital SLR that will accommodate all of my Nikkor AIS lenses but for now I want a mid-range P&S with greater flexibility.

I was not aware of the Ricoh GX200 and based upon your review, I am intrigued by it. Two questions: 1) Is the noise issue at ISO 400 or greater with the Ricoh any worse than that of the Canon G10?; 2) Is the Ricoh software still essentially not compatible with the Apple OS? On their webpage, Ricoh appears to state that their Caplio Mounter and their USB mass storage connections will work with OS10. I use an Apple for my digital lightroom and I want to be able to import the RAW images into Photoshop. Any experience with this?

Thanks! Tom V.

Josh Root , July 04, 2009; 09:30 P.M.

Just a little correction, the lx3 max aperture at wide 24mm is f/2.0, not 2.8.

Not sure what you are talking about. I mention more than once that the max aperture is f/2 at the wide end. If you see a typo, please be more specific about where you saw it.

I would have liked a little more info on how good you feel the lenses are on each camera. Doesn't the LX3 have a Leica lens, which is something they feel is a selling point? A simple test for barrel or pincushion distortion at the widest angle would be good.

There are lots of websites out there who will test lenses until the end of time. That's not my goal with reviews I write. technical timings and test charts are a dime a dozen, I try to write more about how cameras are to use from the standpoint of an experienced photographer.

FWIW, all three cameras have very good lenses. I don't think a test would show anything worth worrying about.

1) Is the noise issue at ISO 400 or greater with the Ricoh any worse than that of the Canon G10?

I think it's a bit worse. Not as pronounced as the 800 and 1600, but still I think the G10 wins in ISO noise over the GX200. However, in my opinion the LX3 beats both.

2) Is the Ricoh software still essentially not compatible with the Apple OS?

I do not know the answer to that. Perhaps someone else does.

Niv Drory , July 05, 2009; 04:34 A.M.

Nice article! One point, though, that may be important to some people is that the G10 does not allow manual focus when the LCD is off. So one cannot zone focus and use the viewfinder with the display being off. It also looses the manual focus setting when the display mode is merely cycled through the off option. The LX3 does not have this flaw, as far as I know, so at least it is usable with an external viewfinder.

Martin Tai , July 05, 2009; 06:49 A.M.

Re: DMW-LW46 wide angle conversion lens for LX3.

IMO, the LW46 conversion lens is supprizingly small and well balanced, its widest diameter is only 46mm, smaller than the diameter of most SLR standard lens of 50-60 mm. The LW46 is about half the size of a bulky LW55 wide angle conversion lens for FZ50.

Optically, the LW46 is much better than LW55, which suffers massive flare and ghost image problem in backlit condition, LW46 is quite resistant to flare and ghost image.

Now I use LX3+LW46 to replace my bulky R5+ Elmarit R19 as travel wide angle lens.

Curt Degler , July 05, 2009; 12:39 P.M.

When discussing accessories you fail to explore the availability of water and pressure proof housings. On this score the G10 is the hands down winner vis-a-vis the LX3, with the GX200 a pass as I am unaware of this accessory for that camera. For photographers who also dive or like taking photographs in wet and or dusty environments having a water and pressure proof housing is a must and the one made by Canon for the G10 is a dandy one, offering nearly complete control over all functions in a light weight and relatively inexpensive package. It was the deciding factor when I purchased the G10 instead of the LX3 since there is no housing for the LX3 other than expensive and bulky custom made cases.

Juha Haataja , July 06, 2009; 05:43 A.M.

Thanks for the excellent comparison. You observations about the LX3 were spot-on, both strengths and nuisances. I have switched off the immediate image review and mapped the "image review" function to the down-button (as suggested by another comment), and it works great. The live histogram compared to manual shooting modes make the LX3 into a very interesting tool for photographers.

John Lynch , July 09, 2009; 12:27 P.M.

Unless something has changed in the last few months, the G10 battery is not cross-compatible with any other camera. The G9 battery was, but Canon changed the battery with the G10 and according to the Canon web site and battery packaging, the battery only fits the G10.

Paul Marbs , July 15, 2009; 09:21 A.M.

The problem with adding image review to the down button is that I use this to gain quick access to ISO. There are not enough dedicated buttons on the LX3. I have the LX3 and would dearly love to have the GX200 with a better sensor and the G10 with a better sensor. You cannot operate the LX3 with one hand. The GX200 is easily operated with one hand. The G9 was easily operated with one hand adjusting EV with the thumb wheel but unless that is still possible on the G10 then it is a backwards step even though it looks cool. The G10 successor is what I am looking forward to out of all the current models.

joe faust , July 20, 2009; 01:30 A.M.

I have a G10 and use it for macro work alot. I find it to be a good all-purpose camera. I have a slr but prefer the g10 .

The lens is good for macro pictures, but you must compose on the ground glass to avoid parallax.

Joe Faust

Joe Walsh , July 20, 2009; 10:01 P.M.

Al,

Josh is correct. He was showing the aperture range of the LX3 at 24mm equiv: f2 wide open, stops down to f8.

f2-8.

He's not saying it's f2.8 at 24 equiv. I did a double take ,too.

Howard Vrankin , August 06, 2009; 08:57 A.M.

As a G10 owner, my thanks for this thorough comparison. I was happily surprised that you took the time and space to look closely at these three small sensor cameras in an environment biased strongly toward DSLR cameras with full frame and APS size sensors. I'm one of probably relatively few who have moved from a DSLR to a higher level P&S. It was a practical consideration, as I was traveling extensively this summer in desert areas, tent camping and hiking. The G10 performed flawlessly, and I brought back satisfying high resolution images for a number of applications. Your text and samples reveal the capabilities of these fine, smaller cameras.

Thakur Dalip Singh , August 12, 2009; 03:09 A.M.

Read before you buy. Think about these problems. My short experience with the Canon G 10 in short time. I have not used video at all. I bought this camera because it has Canon name, 28mm wide angle, good zoom ratio, and Raw, it is compact, light weight, well built, has v good image quality (comparable to 450D (according to DPREVIEW.COM,.) With this camera in pocket most of the time no need to carry DSLR’s bulk. I want to inform others and know other users views also for what I said. With short period use of one month I do not like following things,

1.MOTORISED ZOOM, cannot be used when camera is writing to card, particularly Raw which takes almost 1 second, so you cannot change zoom setting for composing by using motorised zoom . Though you can shoot another picture on same zoom setting continuously. 2.At long end 140mm lens is very slow F 5 3.No EVF, Screen is not a substitute for EVF, because you cannot see properly in daylight as is possible in EVF. 4.Optical viewfinder showing only 70% not 100 or even 90%. 5.Viewing screen is non tiltable rotatable which was available in earlier cheaper Canon compact models also . 6.No built in lens shade/hood, and not easily available in market, no doubt front element is slightly recessed but this is not substitute for a good shade. 7.No adapter supplied to use filters like polarizer etc. and is not easily available in market. As another person writes “Lens adapter is expensive, shows in viewfinder, vignettes at 28mm, with adapter camera no longer is compact”. 8.No settings available in Raw, like =sharpness, saturation, contrast etc. These are available in jpeg. 9.Sound notes cannot be recorded with selected picture individually, though sound can be recorded. 10.No auto start-up with the press of shutter release button, when camera goes off in power save mode. You have to press power on button to start up camera. In Panasonic you press lightly Sutter release button, camera starts up immediately, no need to touch main switch. 11.No information available in optical viewfinder e.g. exposure, focus frame etc. . 12.MOTORISED ZOOM, instead of mechanical, because it cannot be set precisely. MOTORISED ZOOM is difficult for accurate framing

J. D. Griggs , September 02, 2009; 07:58 P.M.


Canon S90

I'm always checking out compacts that can produce RAW files. One just out looks very interesting, though expensive. That's the Canon Powershot S90. Haven't seen one in person yet, but it looks a bit like an Elph with RAW output! Would love to see you check this out.

Joshua S. Freeman , December 24, 2009; 12:06 A.M.

I just got a great deal on a used gx200 with case, lenscap and viewfinder. But I'm wondering about the canon S90. I'd be interested to see a comparison of these two cameras. Thanks,

Joshua

WK Soh , January 27, 2010; 09:19 A.M.

G10 is doing very well..... here is comparison site..... :) IMGXXXXX is canon G10

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterlueck/2989595995/in/set-72157608358929292/

davide khalil , November 14, 2010; 10:32 P.M.

I'm suffering through the same comparison today, with the panasonic already dropped-out because of the lack of time-lapse capability. The Ricoh is such a lovely device with its wide angles, long battery life and good interval times... but the G10 with an intervalometer makes the 24mm lens almost not relevant... and i have yet to choose - prices these days make both options about the same... 24 or not 24, that is the question.


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