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Any self-service kiosks that process 35mm rolls of film?

nyc photog , Sep 01, 2006; 11:17 p.m.

At my family's house, we found undeveloped rolls of 35mm film. My family asked me to develop them. I don't know what's on there or where it's from, so I'm wondering if there are any self-service kiosks that process rolls of 35mm film - not negatives, but the actual rolls.

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Zane Johnson , Sep 02, 2006; 12:07 a.m.

By 'self-service' you mean that you would run the development machine?

Never heard of it. Why would you want to?

This is a world-wide forum, so it helps to state your location when you ask questions like this, nyc photog.

Chad Bender , Sep 02, 2006; 12:43 a.m.

I too am curious why you want 'self-service'. Many places still offer one hour service (assuming the film is C-41).

Zane Johnson , Sep 02, 2006; 12:46 a.m.

My first thought was that there might be nekkid people on it, but I didn't want to ask...

Tim Corridan - Queen Creek, Arizona , Sep 02, 2006; 02:30 a.m.

look dude, if you wanna take amateur nudies, go digital...

Paul Clayton , Sep 02, 2006; 06:47 a.m.

by his screen name, I think its safe to assume that he is in New York.

Secondly, what do you mean by having the rolls processed, but not the negatives. When you get a film developed, the end result is negatives, from which a print is made.

Please confim the following: a, where you live b, what is the film, c41 or e6? c, do you want to process the film yourself or for someone esle to do it? d, what do you want as an end result? Prints?

From you post I get the impression you know nothing about film photography, It thats the case just so so, and I am sure someone here will help you out.

Ben Hutcherson , Sep 02, 2006; 09:24 a.m.

Kodak actually developed one at one time, but it never really caught on. It just sort of half developed them, scanned them to a disk, and then discarded the negatives.

If you don't know if tney have anything worth bothering with on them, the best thing to do is probably take them to a 1 hour lab and request process+CD only. This will probably run about $5.

Terence Spross , Sep 02, 2006; 06:46 p.m.

If digital photography hadn't happened - I have no doubt that self-operating kiosks would finaly be practical. Thoughout photo history self operating development stations have been tried in large cities. With lack of sufficient automation certain portions of the process either required to much skill or wre unreliable and therefore received a bad reputaion. Now, with computer control and the popularity of kiosks these would become popular in that they would be easy to use and allow more control (push-pull, B&W or color, cross=process, completely custom optical printing - print and pay for only what you want, etc. Furthermore, the computer with a simple user interface program would help the uninitaited and/or unintelligent through the process at their level, protecting the equipment and chemistry from the careless at the same time.

But, with digital rapidly replacing film it is no longer an economical investment for any size company to persue the investment to design and manufacture such equipment.

Around 1900 one effort was around a camera that used a positive paper (no film) like some cameras used by street portait photographers. The pro cameras had developing features built into the camera allowing the photographer to sell prints directly to the customer. The amateur version of this did not have processing in the camera but relied on the owner to go to a store and drop a couple pennies into a machine into which he/she could spool out of the camera and into the machine which as the user cranked would eject a processed strip of paper out the other side. The user had to cut apart the prints. (This effort may have been restrited to one machine to support only a few cameras sold - I say that because I can't find any reference of this on the internet although when I was young a friend of the family described how his father obtained the photos he showed me.)

I am aware of an effort that occured around the late 60s, of a self-standing slide (transparency) (for 35mm film) processing station. However, it never got beyond the feasability study due to the demand that it would have to process all slide film, Agfachrome, Ektachrome, and even Kodachrome. Therefore it would required two sets of chemistry. I don't think the small company even got into inquiring about patent royalties. They droped it altogether as the newer E6 and K-14 processes became other choices they would have to accomidate. (An E6 only machine would be much simpler).

Pros and semi-pros in large Amercian cities can often find darkrooms for rent and that is one option you might want to look into. You still would have to do your own work and buy your own chemistry and paper but it saves ownig equipment you might not use much and avoids the hobby from taking space in a small apartment, for example.

Edwin Hermoso , Sep 03, 2006; 12:42 p.m.

Kodak had the technology to do just that : scan exposed, but undeveloped film rolls - and output them to prints in a matter of minutes. The whole thing was supposed to be an additional building block for the Kodak Picture Maker kiosk.

The technology was developed by Applied Science Fiction, better known by their best selling product, Digital I.C.E. ASF was purchased by Eastman Kodak a couple of years ago.

The film scanner was supposed to extrapolate the picture's data from the latent (undeveloped) image on the film. It did so by shining a light onto the exposed film, thereby fogging and destroying it. The scanned data is then amplified, and an image was then available for burning (as a file)and printing from the kiosk. So you walk away with a CD of your negatives, and some prints.

However, the entire project was scrapped last year (AFAIK). No reasons were provided.

Edwin

Ron Andrews , Sep 03, 2006; 05:15 p.m.

Edwin,

There was technology for a film developing kiosk that Kodak obtained when they purchased Applied Science Fiction. There were two technologies that ASF developed. One used minimal B&W development and then recovered a color image by scanning the transmission and reflection from both sides. Before Kodak bought them, ASF switched to a color developer and then scanned wet and unbleached film. It required a bright light to shine through the silver, but the results from trade trials were decent.

There was an earlier approach developed by Kodak before they bought ASF. It used rather unique technology. I don't know whether anything was ever published.

All of this is moot, because Kodak dropped all work in this area when sales projections went south.


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