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Kodachrome - gloomy greens?

Ian Rance , Jun 16, 2009; 06:27 a.m.

I have been using Kodachrome much more recently - like many I suspect to help keep the process going.

However, it is all going a bit wrong. I sent my Mum off on holiday with her compact camera loaded with some and have been using it myself, however when projected, the greens of plants look dark grey green in colour. They don't have any life or vibrance. The reds, yellows and blues look passable, but green is horrible. Now I am getting complaints at the slide showings and my Mum refuses to use it any more.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

Ian

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Fredrik Sandstrom , Jun 16, 2009; 07:19 a.m.

Well, Kodachrome greens are more subdued than in basically any other slide film. I find it realistic and pleasant to look at, others are bothered by it, especially those used to Fujichrome or digital. I was loading a roll of Kodachrome in my camera; a friend (also a photographer) saw it and asked "Why is the cassette yellow and red? Is it because it can't do green?"
But if it really looks as horrible as you say, and more grey than green, I'd suspect that something is wrong either with the film (was it outdated or stored incorrectly?), in the processing (unlikely) or in the exposure (unlikely if the pictures otherwise seem well exposed). How do the greens compare to those from your other Kodachrome rolls?

Steve Smith , Jun 16, 2009; 07:44 a.m.

Is it possible that the compact camera cannot recognise ISO 64 on the DX coding and exposed it at EI 100 instead?
I have known of compacts which only work at 100 and 400.

Jerry Thirsty , Jun 16, 2009; 08:17 a.m.

I got a few rolls of K64 to try before it goes extinct, and my impressions of the colors were the same; the greens are muted and sometimes a bit gray, the reds and oranges look good, and the blues are rather peculiar. Unless you are really after a '70s color palette for some sort of artistic effect, I'm afraid I don't see the reason for using it (the longevity over E6 isn't a compelling reason for me).

Ian Rance , Jun 16, 2009; 08:46 a.m.

Fredrik - my previous rolls have not had much green in them and where I did have green leaves, the sun was shining through them making them brighter. On my latest rolls I took some photos of poppies and roses in subdued light and the (admittedly already) darker rose leaves came out very muted - almost blended together.
Steve, I set the camera to 64 - it does not have DX coding, but it still did not help.
Jerry, I agree about the reds, oranges (and yellows). They really jump out. I don't like overdone colours, but as my projector is only 100 Watts, any reduction in colour soon shows as you can imagine.

Perhaps I need to use the film for more specific applications - not just general photography. I may also try it at 50 ASA.

Ian

Vincent Peri , Jun 16, 2009; 10:03 a.m.

I've shot many rolls of Kodachrome 64 over the years, and I've never seen bad greens (or any other color for that matter). It's an outstanding film when properly exposed.

Robin Smith , Jun 16, 2009; 10:30 a.m.

Greens and blues are subdued in Kodachrome - it is not a "colorful" film unlike many E6 films - it is either a point in its favor or against it depending on your view. It is a high contrast film, but with neutral colors.

Ian Rance , Jun 16, 2009; 11:22 a.m.

Perhaps the song about it making the 'world a sunny' day was misleading to me.

Stephen Sullivan , Jun 16, 2009; 12:30 p.m.

I've shot at least 4 rolls this year of PKR. Two rolls (April 09) were in Seattle and various areas in King County and the other two rolls (May 09) were in various areas in Los Angeles County.

The two rolls that I shot in Washington were amazing. So when I took a trip to California, I took along two more rolls of PKR and one Roll of E100VS, along with my 5D.

Results: PKR and E100VS were both shipped to Dwayne's in the same package. The PKR was so lifeless, very grainy and very flat. The E100VS had life to it. Yes, a bit of grain, but that's E100VS but the colors were vivid, images where sharp.

Tim Bradshaw , Jun 16, 2009; 12:42 p.m.

What are you comparing it to? Or, to put it another way: are there current slide films, other than Kodachrome, which are not enormously over-saturated?


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