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210mm or 240mm for 8X10

Vincent Lau , Oct 15, 2002; 11:46 p.m.

Hi,

I have 150mm, 300mm and 450mm lenses for my 8x10 camera. I think that the 150mm is a bit to wide sometimes and I would like something between 150mm and 300mm. Which focal length shall I get. The 210mm I known of are huge, whereas the 240mm seem to be a little bit smaller( their are still heavy and big for landscape). I am considering the Fuji A 240mm. Good focal length to be between 150 and 300?

Thanks

Vincent Lau

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Jorge Gasteazoro , Oct 16, 2002; 12:51 a.m.

Vincent I have a nikkor 210 and it barely covers the 8x10, and I mean barely...if you sneeze and move the standard you screwed up the shot. OTOH it is light and very sharp..

Stephen Vaughan , Oct 16, 2002; 05:03 a.m.

When I moved up to 8x10 I bought a Schneider 240/5.6 Symmar-S. Its a great lens but has fairly limited room for movements. Recently though, I found a Fuji-W 240mm/6.7 which has a huge image circle of 398mm @ f22, is 1lb lighter than the schneider, and a beautiful lens to work with. But they are hard to find. The later Fuji 240/6.3 has a smaller image circle, as does the Fuji-A. I think Tim Atherton may have also posted info on the Schneider G-Claron 210 which sounded like a good option for a less expensive/weighty 210mm. See the earlier thread for his comments anyway.

Good wish

Brian Ellis , Oct 16, 2002; 07:17 a.m.

I use the210 G Claron for 8x10. It's very small and at F 32 or smaller has ample coverage with movements for my needs.

Eugene Singer , Oct 16, 2002; 09:51 a.m.

Vincent, I have a Fuji f9 240A. The image circle is listed as 336mm. Should be adequate for 8X10, with moderate movements. This is a very small lens. Mounted in a Copal 0 shutter, it takes a 52mm filter. Check with Jim, at Midwest Photo (mpex.com). He may have a good used one at a reasonable price.

Roger Urban , Oct 16, 2002; 11:24 a.m.

"I have 150mm, 300mm and 450mm lenses ..."

That's an awfully nice arsenal for 8x10. There is a big difference between 150mm and 210mm, but not so much difference between 240mm and 300mm. So I would opt for the 210. Check out the Schneider Super-Symmar HM 210mm. Has plenty of room to cover 8x10 with ample movements. I have one and used it to take some 8x10 Velvia shots of a tree with fall colored leaves. http://www.schneideroptics.com for details.

Vincent Lau , Oct 16, 2002; 12:09 p.m.

"Super-symmar HM"

It weighs 1.kg, 20% cheaper then a mint 2nd hand SS 210mm XL in my location, 500gm lighter then the SS 210mm XL, 150mm smaller in the image circle. Should I get the SS 210mm XL with 20% extra cost and 500gm heavier in exchange for 150mm more image circle?

The 240mm/5.6s are around 700gm-1kg with 350-370mm circle, the Fuji 240 A f/9 weight around 250gm with 336mm circle. It seem that if weight is a main concern, get the 240mm esp. the Fujinon, and if covergae is the main concern, then the 210mm xl.

Vincent Lau

Vincent Lau , Oct 16, 2002; 12:13 p.m.

"Super-symmar HM"

One typing error, It weighs 1.5kg.

Vincent Lau

William Levitt , Oct 16, 2002; 12:18 p.m.

I use an older Schneider 210mm Angulon with my 8X10. The lens is small, light weight, razor sharp and has plenty of coverage for 8X10, in fact, I believe it'll cover 11X14" as well. They're hard to find and not cheap, but it's one of the finest lenses I've ever owned.

No, mine is NOT for sale ;-)

tim atherton , Oct 16, 2002; 12:49 p.m.

first, I'd beg to differ - there is quite a difference in look between 240mm and 300mm.

But of your choice between 210 and 240 - it depends a little on your budget.

See a recent post on here for the (limited) testing I did of the G-Claron 210 f9 (A tiny, tiny lens with a 49mm filter size! now I can use all those old filters I had for my OM1...). It is a nice, sharp, budget lens in a modern shutter for 8x10 with limited movements - 1' - 1 3/4" at f32/f45 - which is fine for the type of work I am doing - urban, suburban and other landscapes), but for others might not be enough movement. Another option (if you can find one) is the earliest, single coated, Fuji 210 5.6, which just covers 8x10 as well (later versions don't). In my hunting around for other 210 lenses that will cover, the lenses become significantly more expensive - Sironar W 210; Symmar XL 210mm, Grandagon 200mm; Super Angulon and Angulon 210mm (the latter somewhat cheaper, but hard to find - yes, I'm looking too!).

All that said, my main lens is the already mentioned Fuji 240mm f6.7 - it is a great lens, good coverage, usually decent price, tack sharp, not too big. It is equivelent to avout a 30 or 33mm lens on 35mm cameras (depending on how you chose to measure things). They are harder to find, but I have seen two on Ebay in the last couple of weeks (of course, they never show up when you are looking...). Midwest Photo often has them in and Jim seeks them out in Japan - he got 3 or 4 on his last trip. I got mine from a friendly list member... BUT make sure it's the earlier 240 f6.7 not the new 240 f6.3 - the new one won't cover 8x10

I got the 210 G-Claron to be able to go just a little wider when I needed it.

tim


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