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Business of Wedding Photography

a guide by photo.net wedding photographers, November 2007


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Topic #10: Wedding albums, shopping carts, and other products

Jeff Ascough • Mary Ball • Bob Bernardo • Conrad Erb • Nadine Ohara • Josh Root • David Wegwart • Marc Williams

The Business of Wedding Photography is an extensive subject, best answered by a team of professional wedding photographers, who also happen to be star photo.net members. In this article, these professional photographers have contributed advice and personal experience gained from running wedding businesses. Not only have they provided advice on wedding photography albums, print sales, and other products, they've also included example images of bridal gowns, bridal portraits, and wedding ceremony photographs. Whether you are just entering the field of wedding photography, or are a seasoned professional, the tips and insights shared here should be helpful with your own business.

We asked our panel of experts the following questions:

  1. What method do you use for clients' friends and family to purchase prints from you?
  2. What kind of wedding albums/books do you offer your clients?
  3. Do you create the final album from the proofs or do your clients choose the images for their wedding album?

Purchasing Prints

What method do you use for clients' friends and family to purchase prints from you?

Marc Williams: I don't offer online print sales.

Bob Bernardo: We use printroom.com and the guests can order whatever they wish. Depending on the packages, we sometimes include parent albums, in addition to an album for the bride and groom. We've had very good luck with printroom.com.

Jeff Ascough: I use Skooks Kart, an online shopping cart with customized slideshows.

Mary Ball: I hand the clients 2-4 proof albums containing about 800 or more 4x6 color-corrected prints (film - from my lab). The amount depends on how many hours I was photographing. This can be anywhere from 4-7 hours.

Conrad Erb: I provide images on DVD, which some clients provide. I do printing from my Smugmug site and have had great results with that.

Nadine Ohara: I actually don't have any online proofing service yet, although I am considering one through my lab. I find that many people are complacent about ordering actual prints, so I question whether these services are worth their price. Clients like the idea since they can use them to show off their event to all their family and friends, but as an actual device to make money from, these services don't seem to be that cost effective. I give clients their files so they can do what they want with them.

Josh Root: My clients return a print order sheet to me. It is an inefficient system at best. What I would suggest to anyone setting up their ordering system from scratch is to set up online ordering through one of the companies that provide this service. It's far easier for the photographer, saves time, and the photographer would have all of the tools integrated into their system.

David Wegwart: I like to use an online gallery host that offers printing. I upload files that can be used to print an 8x10 at a push. For larger prints, I have them redirected to me. Family and friends can use this service too.

Wedding Albums/Books

What kind of wedding albums/books do you offer your clients?

Marc Williams: I use one album, General Products E line in all black. One large image to a page. I don't want anything to detract from the photos.

Bob Bernardo: The albums we use varies. Perhaps the most expensive is White Glove, other companies include Art Leather, Leather Craftsmen, and a few others, depending on the client's budget and taste. Capri is also used a lot because the rep comes to our studios at least once a year.

Jeff Ascough: Mainly matted Jorgensen albums.

Mary Ball: Though I tell my clients that any album they see out there while looking at wedding photographers is also available through me, they generally pick the Seldex bookbound album for its classic timeless look. 99 percent pick black albums with black mats and a white bevel trim around the photos.

Conrad Erb: I offer the more traditional leather florentina albums, as well as coffee table books by GraphiStudio.

Nadine Ohara: I offer almost anything that a professional photographer can get, both traditional and otherwise.

Josh Root: Whatever they are looking for. I do prefer to offer the "book" style albums, rather than the traditional "page insert" styles. It is really up to the preference of the couple.

David Wegwart: I prefer to design books. Companies like Asuka, VisionArt, Forbeyon, GraphiStudio, etc., are great for this.

Final Album Creation

Do you create the final album from the proofs or do your clients choose the images for their wedding album?

Marc Williams: I select everything.

Bob Bernardo: We select everything and my partner designs the albums. There are companies that will do this for you. In fact if my partner wasn't so creative and good at it, I'd have companies like Capri design the album for me. Most of these companies offer this service, you simply provide the DVD/CD. This service costs extra. If the bride gets involved this can take a lot of hours and often they aren't happy with the final product. So far we haven't had a single complaint.

Jeff Ascough: I choose the images that go into the album and the design of the album. Clients don't have any input into that part of my business.

Mary Ball: The excellent quality proof books have order sheets and an order grid is situated next to each print. They are instructed to use the order pages to check off which images they want for an album and for loose prints. I choose the sizes and sequence for the albums and advise them on adding or subtracting prints and in some cases substituting one for another if I feel it works better than the print they picked. My clients are mostly receptive to defer to my judgment and most of them let me completely take charge of the sizes, sequence and are happy to let me substitute my choices if I feel strongly. I do, prefer to let them choose the bulk of the images because I want them to have an album with their favorites.

There is no time limit, which is probably why I always have orders in house. The info about pricing and ordering as well as my phone number, address, etc., is adhered to the inside cover of book one.

When the proof albums come in the couples tell me the biggest problem they had was narrowing down which pictures to use for the album because there were so many they liked. Usually the minimum number of pages is 36. Because there is no deadline, sometimes I get an order for parent albums and reprints and the following year the proofs come back for the couple's album. It makes it easier for them to spread out the costs and provides a steady cash flow for me.

The work flow is quite a process but I like that I'm not sitting in front of a computer but in my living room listening/watching the news channels.

Conrad Erb: As with all things, my clients tell me what they want. They choose the images.

Nadine Ohara: I do whatever the client doesn't want to do. In other words, if the client wants to control every aspect of the album, they can. If they don't want to get involved, they don't have to. Usually, I ask a client to provide me a list of images they definitely want in the album, and then I make a layout from that list, deciding what is larger or smaller (unless the client has indicated) and may add other images for continuity. The client approves the layouts, although I limit the number of changes they can make without incurring extra cost.

Josh Root: I choose the images unless we have negotiated differently. It's faster for me, and in all honesty, ends up looking better for the couple a lot of the time.

David Wegwart: I give the selection process to the client with the caveat that I may change some based on the aesthetic of the book/design. I also suggest an upper number limit of images so that the book does not become crowded.

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Text contributed by: Jeff Ascough, Mary Ball, Bob Bernardo, Conrad Erb, Nadine Ohara, Josh Root, David Wegwart, Marc Williams, ©2007. Edited by Hannah Thiem. All photos are copyright the photographer, and may not be used without written permission.

Article created November 2007

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Jeff Ascough , March 06, 2008; 04:42 A.M.

Just an update on this article. I no longer use a Skooks Kart, I have switched over to PickPic 3.

Jeff

edward rice , October 13, 2009; 11:16 A.M.


Rice Events

Rice Events, (UK) - Photography & Events - we dont offer prints or services online. - used to offer Graphi, but have now switched to http://www.photoproductions.com - I select all the photos for the final album, (though I do ask the wedding couple to choose a 'handful' of their favorite ones)

Chris Smith , July 12, 2010; 09:31 A.M.

I'm a professional photographer and was looking for something different. Searching on the net I stubled across wedding albums from spain and I'm glad I did. The albums have a mediterranean touch and the wedding couple loved the album I made.


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