David Yang , Nov 28, 2009; 11:13 a.m.
I am very interested to see some sample images. Most reviews out on the web are based on the M8; I am interested to see samples fo the falloff (supposedly about 3 stops) at f/0.95. I am interested in picking up one of these for some emotive portraits but would sure appreciate seeing some samples of the falloff before taking the plunge. Thank you! (please spare this post of costs, etc., yes we are all aware of the price tag on this puppy . . .)
David Yang , Nov 28, 2009; 11:13 a.m.
I should be more specific, the current version of the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95, not the old f/1.0. Thank you!
Brandan Gomez , Nov 28, 2009; 11:24 a.m.
The usual is to use more than 50mm for portraits.
But it depends on what kind of portraits you are planning to do.
if I am not in a mistake those are the most expensive items in the leica M system, the most expensive body with the most expensive lens.
Maybe they give good results.
;-)
David Yang , Nov 28, 2009; 11:38 a.m.
Yes I suppose there is a theory for expensive euipment give godo results ha ha. Thank you Brandan for your rersponse. I agree that longer focal lengths are typically more desirable for portraits, which has made the 90mm APO the most suitable lens if you shoot Leica, but I typically use a 70-200mm or a 135m f/2.0 on a Nikon with AF otherwise I am can never keep up with the models. That said, the boken on the f/0.95 is wonderful (from the samples that I have seen on the M8) and gives that dreamy look everyone is raving about. I am really tempted to shoot this puppy for a lower-paced full-body glamour B/W portraits with nothing but the eyes in focus, or foreground thrown off, etc. I've tried it with the Summilux 50mm and yes the results are terrific, but ironically I like the pre-ASPH Summilux 50mm results better than the ASPH as the former gave me a more "dreamy" look as I found the the new ASPH to be a bit too contrasty for what I was trying to accomplish. It seems that the f/0.95 may be a perfect answer to the holy grail that I am seeking . . .
Ken Shipman
, Nov 28, 2009; 02:08 p.m.
I've been fooling around with this combination for only a couple of days now. I think they did an admirable job of retaining the old Noctilux look with the ASPH. The M9 does a really nice job of handling the edges and corners. Original is in DNG; this is JPG extract of course. Absolutely no manipulation other than what the M9 does in camera. As far as fall-off is concerned, I can't see any difference between the DNG and extracted JPG. I took this at f/1.4 to get a little more depth of field.
M9 and Noctilux f/.95 taken at f/1.4
Ken Shipman
, Nov 28, 2009; 02:30 p.m.
Another, this one taken at f/.95. Focus point is his watch dial. This is for illustrative purposes only of course. No artistic claims. :-)
Zero manipulation, right out of the camera, all settings neutral.
Hal at Camera West
Ken Shipman
, Nov 28, 2009; 02:43 p.m.
Last one. My wife, Andie, at Thanksgiving. Taken at f/2 to get some DoF. I tweaked the levels in this one, but nothing else.
Andie at Thanksgiving
David Yang , Nov 28, 2009; 08:44 p.m.
Ken, thank you VERY much for sharing. This is exactly what I wanted to see. Curiously, I don't see any noticeable falloff even at f/0.95. I expected that the f/0.95 would have less falloff (when compared with the Summilux 50mm ASPH when stopped down to f/2.0 or more (as Leica's on graphs show), but did not expect the corners to be this bright at f/0.95. Of course, Leica's own charts also show about a 3 stop falloff at the corners for the Summilux 50mm ASPH when shot at f/1.4, and I never saw that either (admittedly I didn't go shoot a bunch of pictures of a white wall); this is something I also never understood because graphs don't lie . . .
Of course falloff is not always a bad thing, but it's obviously easier to add vignette than to remove it :)
David Yang , Nov 28, 2009; 08:45 p.m.
I should again clarify that my experiences with the Summilux 50mm ASPH were also with the M9, not film. Perhaps there is a difference in falloff between the M9 and the film bodies? Meaning does the M9 compensate? That would be really interesting . . .
Ken Shipman
, Nov 28, 2009; 09:25 p.m.
I agree, I'm also surprised by the lack of fall-off. I think the M9 firmware is compensating.
I will be trying it out with film as well, and I expect we'll see the true Noctilux corner character.
My Summilux ASPH is off being coded. When it comes back I'll be doing a comparison with that, too.