Gianandrea Traina , Mar 20, 2010; 10:30 p.m.
Hi everyone!
I lately abandoned 35mm because I personally feel that for a reflex system 120 is better, but now I wanna get a RF camera to bring always with me, this could be a great opportunity to reevaluate the characteristics of small format.
I'm looking for a bessa R, how much do you think I should invest? Would a bessa T be better because of the M mount?
Thanks a lot!
John Shriver 
, Mar 20, 2010; 11:11 p.m.
R2 would be even better. But there are plenty of nice lightweight LTM mount lenses.
Be careful not to pay more than Cameraquest wants for a new one. I keep seeing folks trying to sell used CV 21/4 lenses for the same (or more) that Cameraquest wants for a new one... No idea what they're smoking.
Alex Shishin 
, Mar 21, 2010; 12:08 a.m.
Do yourself a favor. Get a Leica M or a Zeiss Ikon. The Bessa R is not a rugged camera. It also will not take the many nice M mount lenses on the market.
Jeff Guthrie , Mar 21, 2010; 05:28 a.m.
The old Bessa R sells for about $200 in Japan, the R2 sells for about $300 (used prices), and the R2 is also more sturdily made.
I'm surprised at the variety of prices Voigtlander stuff seems to fetch, like John says, there are people who are asking more for some lenses and such than what they cost new. I suppose that's not necessarily a bad thing, if you don't like your R, you'll probably be able to resell your R for at least what you paid for it.
Gianandrea Traina , Mar 21, 2010; 09:54 a.m.
Thanks a lot for all the replies, for sure I would be really happy to get a Leica M or a Super Ikon ZI if only I could afford one :)
I will stick on the Bessa R and I might consider the R2A as a future upgrade if I will be happy with the R
Thanks again!
David W. Griffin
, Mar 21, 2010; 10:17 a.m.
Check the prices at KEH for a used M2 or M3 (I prefer the M2). It's more expensive than the Bessa, but it will last till the glaciers roll over North America. I'm imagining a "Life after People" episode where all the works of man are gone except for the Leica M's ;-)
Gianandrea Traina , Mar 21, 2010; 10:43 a.m.
Thank you but I just bought the Bessa R for 150$.
We will see, if I fall in love with RF camera I'm pretty sure I will want an upgrade one day
David W. Griffin
, Mar 21, 2010; 02:38 p.m.
Hope you enjoy it. Try some infrared film in it. Rangefinders have a colossal advantage to SLRs doing that because you can see through the opaque filters.
Frederick Muller
, Mar 22, 2010; 07:33 p.m.
$150 is right. The Bessa R is a great screw-mount platform. The Bessa R is well enough made. I find that if I mount a solid lens on it, the camera takes on a very solid feel. I don't think you will be disappointed.
Gianandrea Traina , Mar 24, 2010; 06:46 p.m.
Today I finally managed to put my hands on the Bessa R that I bought on eBay, I have to say that i really like the ergonomics of this camera (or maybe I should say this type of camera because it's my first RF), it's tiny, I can easily put it in my coat pocket, not heavy and feels just right in my hands(and this make me want to try to use a Leica a lot more, because if this camera feels so good I can't imagine how good has to be one of those)
Tomorrow I will process the film and possibly print a couple of pictures, I'm curious to see the results.
I coupled the camera with a cheap jupiter 8 (I couldn't afford anything better at the moment) I was tempted to get a jupiter 12, but I read around discordant reviews, someone say that the 12 can't be mounted on a Bessa T because of the excessive movement of the retro focus, some others say that they did it and it works with no problem, who should I trust?
In the future I'd like to get a 15mm super wide heliar or at least a 35mm because I think that wide lenses might work better for street photography, any suggestion for a not to pricey wide lens?