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Hasselblad Focal Plane shutter cameras

Anthony Oresteen , Apr 21, 2004; 02:18 p.m.

I've posted a page on my website that lists all the Hasselblad focal plane shutter cameras with a lot of technical information on each model.

It's at:

http://www.oresteen.com/hasselbladfcameras.htm

or www.oresteen.com and follow the photography links.

If I've missed any models please let me know!

Thanks!

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J. Mose , Apr 21, 2004; 04:42 p.m.

Hi Anthony,

I looked it over in detail since I am a user and collector of Hasselblads. The only error I found with the flash sync for the 1600F and 1000F should be 1/25 instead of 1/30.

Glad to hear you like focal plane models as well!

Regards,

J. P. Mose

Anthony Oresteen , Apr 21, 2004; 08:49 p.m.

Thanks! What was I thinking? Pentax 6x7 maybe? Anyway you are correct and I will correct the info. Thanks for looking.

BTW, some of my most favorite images were made with my 1000F and an 80mm Ektar lens. I guess since I started with the focal plane model I got used to it. I had a 300mm f/4 Pentacon lens adapted to my 2000FC/M, somthing you could not do with the 500 series cameras.

J. Mose , Apr 22, 2004; 08:22 a.m.

Anthony,

I agree that the early lenses are special. I love the 135mm Ektar, along with the early 250mm Sonnar f/4 wide open. I just sent off four early cameras and eight early lenses to David Knapman in Sweden for CLA. My plan is to dedicate one of the cameras for use and shoot with it more. Send me some photos shot with your Ektar!

Regards,

J. P. Mose

David Choo , Apr 23, 2004; 12:11 a.m.

Hey Anthony.. have you ever had a problem with your 2000 fcm locking up? I've been trying to figure out what is wrong with my friends 2000 cfm. Initially it was just all locked up. I pressed the multiple exposure button and it released the shutter and moved the mirror back to its normal position. Also allowed me to take off the lens.

Thing is, the camera wont cock or fire without me pushing the multiple exposure button. :(

Evan Dong , Apr 23, 2004; 12:41 p.m.

Hi Anthony & J.P. Moses,

I recently purchased a Hasselblad 1000F with the 80mm Tessar. I would assume that David Knapp of Sweden is the only individual whom can repair these older cameras. Anyone else stateside who can do minor repairs if needed? Also does the original Salut lenses and maybe some of the earlier Kiev 88 lenses fit the Hasselblad 1600f and 1000f? Is there anything that I could do to assure a good fit? Otherwise I would have to hunt for some new lenses.

Q.G. de Bakker , Apr 24, 2004; 05:05 a.m.

David,

Silly question, please do forgive me. But is the battery still "alive"?


J.P.

Can you give us a rough indication of how much David Knapman is charging today?

J. Mose , Apr 26, 2004; 11:17 a.m.

Hello Evan & Q.G.,

I have some information for you. Regarding repair sources, the only other person I know that will work on a 1000F (and NOT 1600F's) is John Kovacs in New Hampshire. Here is the contact info that I have:

Hilton Command Exposures 210 Daniel Webster Hwy #9 Nashua, NH 03060 (603) 888-3684

Regarding David Knapman in Sweden, here are some of his rates:

1600F* Mechanical Overhaul SEK 4500 1000F Mechanical Overhaul SEK 3500 500C/CM Mechanical Overhaul SEK 1500 Superwide Mech. Overhaul SEK 2000 (includes body and lens) Lens Overhaul SEK 1050 Magazine Overhaul SEK 550 Lens Cleaning Only SEK 900

* David will not work on Series One 1600F models, which include serial numbers 0001 to 0308 due to the complexity and hours involved.

Please note the following:

1) Mechanical overhauls are for the body only and do not include lenses (except for Superwide overhaul) or magazines. All mechanical parts are included in the price with the exception of new shutter curtains (SEK 1000). Any cosmetic parts required are at extra cost (subject to availability).

2) I do not have rates for the EL/ELMs, 2000 or 200 series cameras. However, David will repair these as well.

3) Lens and magazine overhauls also include mechanical parts. Cosmetic, barrel and lens elements are at extra cost (subject to availability).

4) Lens cleaning includes cleaning by lens groupings. In other words some air to air surfaces cannot be reached by David.

These prices are current and have been discussed with David prior to me quoting them.

Good luck!

E-mail me if you have further questions on the earlier models.

Regards,

J. P. Mose

Evan Dong , Apr 26, 2004; 01:27 p.m.

J.P. Moses,

Dude, thanks for the info!! WOuld you know if any of the earlier Salut/Kiev 88 lenses fit the Hasselblad 1000F? Currently I have a 1000F, 80mm Tessar, 60mm Distagon, and a 135mm Sonnar. Do you have any backup body for your 1000F or are you just using one body and several lenses?

Can any of the RUssian/Ukrainian repairman who are familiar with the Salut, repair the 1000F and maybe 1600F?

Thanks for valuable information!

J. Mose , Apr 26, 2004; 02:50 p.m.

Hi Evan,

I really don't know anything about the non-factory lenses so I can't help you. I would post a question regarding the subject. I know that Marc Small (co-author of "Zeiss Compendium") has some Russian lenses that he praises.

Regarding the 1000F: I have two - one from 1953 that is truly mint with the matching magazine and lens (according to Rick Nordin) and original box, literature, etc. The second one is mint minus from 1956 and is intended as the user. It had never been overhauled so I recently sent it, along with my 1600F, other 1000F, '56 Superwide and nine lenses to David Knapman for CLA and minor cosmetic restorations. I must confess that I am more of a collector of early Hassy stuff than a user. I have used the '56 Superwide but only used the one 1000F for maybe ten rolls of film before it quit on me. I had my 1600F restored in 1986 and have only run three rolls of film through it...I mainly exercise it. I am looking forward to using the 1000f more and trying out all the early lenses. They seem to perform quite well as is. After David cleans all of them up I expect they will even be better! Send me some of your early Hasselblad photos via e-mail (if you have a scanner...I don't!).

All the best,

J. P.

Chauncey Walden , Apr 26, 2004; 11:59 p.m.

Evan, At one time I had about the 500th 1600F made and a Kiev 88. The Kiev's lens would not fit the 1600F. I also had a later 80 Tessar along with the original Ektar. In testing and in practice, the Ektar made the replacement Tessar (Hasselblad said that the Ektar was too expensive!) look anemic. YMMV, of course, but the Ektars, both the 80 and the 135, were beautiful lenses.

Evan Dong , Apr 27, 2004; 11:44 a.m.

Hi Chauncey,

Thanks for the prompt reply! I was hoping that at least some of the Salut/Kiev 88 optics would fit the Hasselblad 1000F. Especially the 30mm Fisheye, the 90mmF2.8 and the 150mmF2.8. Oh well, I still have my 80mm Tessar, 150mm Sonnar and a 60mm Distagon on the way with a backup body.

The Kodak lenses tend to be scarce. But reading & hearing from the owners of these lenses here, the Kodak lenses must be far better than the Zeiss counterparts. Any examples that the viewers can see for themselves? What are the characteristics that separate the Ektars from the Zeiss counterparts? I have a chance to buy a Kodak 135mm, but since I have the Zeiss Sonnar, I skipped it. But if its performance is that much better than the SOnnar, please tell me and show me some examples. I might just buy that Ektar 135mm.

Q.G. de Bakker , Apr 28, 2004; 04:34 p.m.

Hello Evan,

While the 80 mm Kodak Ektar is a far better lens than either of the two Zeiss-Opton 80 mm Tessars i have, i wouldn't say the 135 mm Ektar is better than the 135 mm Zeiss Sonnar. The Zeiss Sonnar is a quite stunning lens. Simply top rate.
And that's where the comparison between the Kodak and Zeiss lenses avalaible for the "ancient" Hasselblad ends. The Zeiss f/5.6 250 mm Sonnar has no Kodak counterpart available (only prototypes of a 10" Ektar exist, so who is going to compare?). It is basically the same lens as the f/5.6 250 mm Sonnar available today. A great lens too. And the only wide angle Ektar ever "presented" was a thing that could not be used with the Hasselblads it was made for. The Zeiss f/5.6 60 mm Distagon is a good lens, but nothing spectacular.


And hello J.P.!

Thanks very much for the Knapman pricing info. Methinks it's time i'd send some gear on its way back to Sweden, before mr Knapman decides to retire. Thanks!

Evan Dong , Apr 28, 2004; 11:33 p.m.

Q.G. Bakker,

Thanks for your advice. If anything, I will pick up an extra body to use. I 'm not much a fan of telephoto lenses, thats why I am going with the 60mm Distagon. How about the Kaligar 52mmF3.5 for the Haasselblad 1000F? DId you ever get around to trying out the KIEV 88 lenses on your Hasselblad 1000F? Kinf of interested if the really will work with the Hasselblad.

Evan

Q.G. de Bakker , Apr 30, 2004; 08:46 a.m.

Hello Evan,I never tried the kaligar, no.

Nor any other non-"original" lens on my ancient Hasselblads. I tried a Kiev 30 mm fisheye, but it wouldn't fit.

Nor will any other Kiev lens or lens that will fit a Kiev: the ancient Hasselblad and Kiev mounts are extremely alike, yet different enough that Kiev lenses will not fit without "surgery".

I returned the Kiev fisheye lens after abandoning the idea of having it adapted to "modern" Hasselblad mount. The person doing these conversions said that the rear filter need to be removed to prevent the mirror in the "modern" Hasselblad hitting it on its way up. The rear filter however is part of the optical design, and can't be ommited without losing quality. So the lens went back to Hans Roskam.

While the lens wouldn't mount completely on the "ancient" Hasselblad, it would go on far enough to do some optical tests. Far enough to provide a light tight seal between camera and lens, but not far enough to focus infinity. And still having a good 45 degree turn left to go, the shade vignetted something rotten.
Anyway, restricted to rather close (3 - 4 meters, and shorter) focussing, tests showed the lens being rather disappointing: not sharp (sharpness going rather rapidly moving off image center), displaying horrendously low contrast. Still, would have been a nice toy. ;-)

Anthony Oresteen , Apr 30, 2004; 01:47 p.m.

David,

I'm not sure why the 2000FC/M is loking up. Did you try a new battery?

Chauncey Walden , May 06, 2004; 05:14 p.m.

If anyone is just dying to try a Hasselblad Ektar, I was just in a camera shop and they had a relatively late 1000F (still functional!) with its Ektar for $450. On a sadder note, another shop had two 250 C lenses and had them marked down to $300 and $450 with still no takers.

Jim Payette , May 30, 2004; 11:19 a.m.

I bought a Russian 30mm that was adapted for my 2000FCW and it is a fantastic lens. Jim

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