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Projecting Medium Format

Don Simpson , Aug 21, 2004; 12:23 a.m.

I have been projecting 35mm for years and am interested in doing the same as I move into MF. I'll be taking travel pictures for the most part.

From previous discussions, it looks like a good choice is 6x6 for projection which would lend itself to a Mamiya 6 type camera for travel. However, the 6x7 Mamiya 7II is now the only Mamiya model offered new.

I'm interested if members of the forum have experience in projecting MF.

Thanks,

Don

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Jaakko Antero Koskentola , Aug 21, 2004; 04:41 a.m.

MF slides projected are an awesome experience at first. With 100 ASA film and 1x1 m white board, no grain is evident. Gradation is simply stunning as is the level of detail. I use Hasselblad equipment (500 C/M + PCP 80 projector), which suit well together. There are 6x7 projectors as well, see eg http://www.goetschmann.de/ for high-end MF projection. Rollei also makes 6x6 projectors. There also exist models for projection of both 35mm and 6x6 with the same projector, eg Rollei's P11, an old design. ...jaakko

Ferdi Stutterheim , Aug 21, 2004; 05:38 a.m.

I would like to add: The G´┐Żtschmann 6x7 is very, very expensive. The Hasselblad projector is (being) fased out. The Rollei Dual P is a currant slide projector for both 35mm and 6x6. Another currant model is the Kindermann diafocus 66 T. Find particulars at www.rollei.de and www. kindermann.de.

David Henderson , Aug 21, 2004; 07:32 a.m.

To the best of my knowledge the Hasselblad projector is discontinued though occasionally available used. There are cheaper manual 67 projectors by the likes of Cabin where you push/pull a carrier into the gate. The image quality from these seems good to me when projected up to about five feet across, and you can use them for pretty much any format I think. Inevitably there's a problem and this is that you can only load a couple of slides at a time.

Diego Buono , Aug 21, 2004; 08:02 a.m.

Rollei P11 and P66 are available used at low price (400 - 500 euros), P11 offer the capability to project both 6X6 and 35mm; is not autofocus (useless in my opinion). P66 is newer and autofocus but only MF capability. They both accept standard slide trays. I have bought a used P11 and I'm very satisfied with it, I projected untill 3m X 3m with excellent result even if at this ratios I would desire a more powerfull lamp (available). I have heard great things about the discontinued Hasselblad PCP 80; It accept round trays for 90 slides, usefull if you want to do continous slide show without changing trays. It is awailable used but is very expensive. If you try MF slide projection you will never go back.

Ravi Swamy , Aug 21, 2004; 08:04 a.m.

This page has a good rundown on medium format slide projectors:

http://medfmt.8k.com/bronslideproj.html

If you're on a budget then I suggest one of the old 1950/1960's era projectors.

I only shoot 6x6 so I picked up two old Brumberger slide projectors off of ebay. The first cost $10 and the second was $1. The shipping was $15...

The mounts for 645 and 6x6 have the same outer dimension so they work fine in 6x6 projectors. 6x7 won't fit of course.

Diego Buono , Aug 21, 2004; 09:20 a.m.

Someone of you knows if is possible to do dissolve projection with two Rollei P11?

Andy M , Aug 21, 2004; 11:21 a.m.

Projecting Medium Format - try a Leitz Prado Universal

Another option is a Leitz Prado Universal projector. These appear occasionally on the Bay. They were sold as both 6x6 units and as 35 mm projectors, so be sure you get the correct one for youir needs. The 6x6 one has different condensors, front stage, and, of course, lens. Once upon a time, you could buy a kit to change the Prado from 35 mm to 6x6 or the other way around, but now it would be almost impossible to assemble the bits and pieces one at a time. The Prado works on both 120 v or 240 volt, 50 or 60 Hz. Most of the 6x6 units are equipped with a 150 mm lens (coated, superb quality). One big problem with the 6x6 Prado is that each focal length lens requires its own unique conical lens-holding tube. Invariably, you see used lenses for sale without their mounting tube, and they are useless that way. You'd never be able to find the tubes. The older Prado projectors (pre-Universal) are also excellent machines.

Joachim Inkmann , Aug 21, 2004; 12:29 p.m.

Regarding old projectors I can provide some first hand experience. When I started with 6x7, a friend was so kind to lend me an old Linhof 6x7 slide projector (Leica Prado type, most likely produced by Leica). Certainly one of the better oldtimers, they still sell for high prices. Later I replaced this projector with a Goetschmann G67. There really is no comparison. A 35mm slide projected with a good recent projector is more convincing than a 6x7cm slide projected with an old projector like the Prado type Linhof. If you invest in high quality MF equipment, make sure you get an appropriate modern projector. Otherwise it makes no sense to consider medium format slide shows.

Siu Fai Au , Aug 21, 2004; 01:22 p.m.

AFAIK, you can't dissolve with the P11. The P66S is the oldest Rollei model that allows dissolve projection.


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