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Opinion: 80mm CF v CFi v CFE comparison

Ron Bose , May 18, 2006; 12:48 p.m.

Out of the three latest 'C' type Hasselblad V-series lenses, are there any good optical reasons why a CF can't perform as well as a CFi or a CFE ?

I suppose that I'm asking 'is the price difference between a CF and a CFi/CFE worth it ?'

Thanks for your opinions !

Cheers, Ron


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Q.G. de Bakker , May 18, 2006; 01:30 p.m.


What CFi 80 mm lens? ;-)

The short answer is "no", as far as optical performance is concerned.
The CFE lens has seen some changes in several things, and it really is up to you to put a value on those.

Gary Ferguson , May 18, 2006; 02:21 p.m.

I use the latest 80mm CFE as well as a silver bodied T* 80mm C.

I can't see any difference between them in terms of actual results, however the C is prettier where as the CFE has smoother focusing! I don't think you'll be missing out on anything with a CF.

Anthony Oresteen , May 18, 2006; 02:53 p.m.

Any difference betwteen the two wold be a function of the film back and/or the body alignment. Optically they are the same.

Heck, I can't see any difference bewteen my 1959 6 element 80mm Planar and my 7 element 80mm T* F Planar in 11x11 prints.

Paul Neuthaler , May 18, 2006; 05:19 p.m.

I'm with Anthony: for app. $350, you can get a clean 80mm C T* Planar which will take as sharp a photo as you are capable of creating!!

Ron Bose , May 18, 2006; 05:47 p.m.

Thanks for the responses guys,

The reason I'm asking is because I'm thinking of getting another 80mm, I already have a CF.

My girlfriend has started to do family portraits and when she needs MF I've said she can use my 500c/m, but not my 501c/m ;-)

So either I buy myself a newer 80mm like a CFE (used of course) and let her use the CF or I buy her a C T* and keep the CF with the 501c/m.

Cheers, Ron

Robert Budding , May 18, 2006; 06:47 p.m.

You're going to let your girlfriend use your 'blad? Must be serious!

Bill Dewberry , May 19, 2006; 11:15 a.m.

Do not get a CT lens, they are too difficult to focus. The CF is easier, and the CFE even more, they changed the focusing barrel.

Simon Baker , May 19, 2006; 05:59 p.m.

Hello Ron, If your budget will allow, there are a number of reasons why a CFi or CFE would be a better choice.

1) CFi & CFE lenses have many improvements which are genuinely worthwhile, a) they benifit from a newly designed mainspring which is made from "Nivarox" and is expected to remain reliable three times longer than the springs used in "C" and "CF" lenses. b) Focusing is extremely smooth and fast thanks to a newly designed " low friction" ring, I have used all versions and CFi/CFE lenses are simply miles ahead in terms of ease of focusing and speed. c) the flash connector has been redesigned with a cable locking device which I have found virtually impossible to unintentionally remove the sync cable from. d) the interior behind the lens elements has been opened up and given better coatings to greatly reduce light reflections on the interior surface. e) the rear lens mount has been made from a single piece of specially treated metal so as to make it more durable and able to withstand the heaviest of use. f) The lens scale has been made easier to read, through the use of more distinctive letters and numbers.

2) CFE lenses are equipped with "data bus" connections - which are gold plated electronic connections for use with the built in metering systems of the 200 series cameras, thus allowing "open aperture metering" with these cameras, a "C" or "CF" lens would require the use of "stopped down metering". These electronic connections are of course only useful with 200 series cameras but all of the other improvements apply to 500 series cameras as well.

At the end of the day, it comes down to what you can afford, but in my opinion a CFi or CFE lens would make a better long term purchase as both have many improvements over the earlier designs and should perform reliably for longer, require less servicing ( saving ᆪ / $ ) and be repairable for a long time to come.

Here in the UK, a secondhand mint CFE lens sells for about ᆪ150 - ᆪ200 ( ᆪ1 = $1.85 ) more than a similar condition CF lens, well worth the extra money for the improvements on offer.

Another option and one for serious consideration if you have a 500 series body is a "CB" lens, these are identical to CFi lenses except they do not have an "F" setting as they were designed to be used with 500 series cameras. The current secondhand price of a "CB" lens in the UK is about the same as a similar condition "CF" lens ( now we're talking ! ) around ᆪ350 - ᆪ400 for a mint example. If you can get a mint "CB" lens for "CF" money then go for it, it will be well worth it.

Simon Baker , May 19, 2006; 06:06 p.m.

Hi again Ron ( and everyone else ), I'm using a UK keyboard so the "pound sterling" symbol is appearing as a ? on the site. Where you see a ? in my response it is meant to be "pound sterling".

Kind regards Simon

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