Afton Gayle , Aug 28, 2008; 03:29 p.m.
I just got a Mamiya C330 -- 3 or 4 of the 12 prints from my first roll have a black bar or stripe along the
bottom of the frame; it looks as if the entire image shifted up. I don't think this is a parallax error because I
was focused on infinity. Anyone have any idea what's causing this? Bad rollers maybe?
Thanks.....
Pavel Pinkas , Aug 28, 2008; 04:05 p.m.
How does the negative look like? This sounds that the negative might have been misaligned during printing process and the black bar is the empty space between frames (lab fault).
Afton Gayle , Aug 28, 2008; 09:50 p.m.
I was worried about that, but I wanted to blame it on the camera or myself first -- this was my first roll of 120 film in a new camera. The negatives have the bar too -- it isn't just on the prints (and it isn't every print). Is it possible that the hand crank or my cranking skills could have something to do with the defect?
Afton
Pavel Pinkas , Aug 28, 2008; 10:32 p.m.
Dave Sims
, Aug 28, 2008; 11:20 p.m.
I'm wondering if the back shutter was getting in the way-- the thing that shields the film when you're changing lenses. Am I out to lunch?
Dave Sims
, Aug 29, 2008; 01:26 a.m.
Let me retract that-- back shutter comes up from below, so it would affect the top of the image field first.
Chris Waller
, Aug 29, 2008; 03:18 a.m.
The Mamiya TLRs have in-the-lens diaphragm shutters so that would not cause a black bar. A scan of the negs would be useful. If the black bar has a soft edge then it's probably the baffle (that;s the thing that swings up when you unlock the lens to change it) that has got in the way - have a look at the lock/unlock knob on the side. Is it in the 'lock' position?
Afton Gayle , Aug 29, 2008; 09:11 a.m.
Haven't looked at the baffle, but the lens Lock is in the lock position. Is it possible that I just didn't crank all the way? And, as I said, the bar isn't on every frame, and it isn't the same size. (Noticeable on 4 out of 12.) The key, I think, is that the entire image is shifted up -- I was doing timed exposure shots on a tripod, so there's no question that the image shift is real (camera didn't move, as I was using a cable release).
Pavel Pinkas , Aug 29, 2008; 12:58 p.m.
If you did not crank all the way, you should see a frame overlap or frames very close to each other. However, the full 6x6 frame should be still exposed. Also, the shutter locks and won't release until you wind enough film (the crank should come to hard stop when the film is successfully wound).
As for the baffle, it's spring loaded and should not stay in intermediate position. Also, the shutter locks if the baffle is up or midway. At least how it works on my C330s, there may be fewer interlocks on plain vanilla C330.
It would help a lot if you could post an example of the problem, it seems to me that we are all guessing here.
Afton Gayle , Aug 29, 2008; 01:57 p.m.
Here are some rough and ready scans -- adjacent frames, one with the bar, one without, and the camera didn't move between shots (locked down on a tripod).
C330 frame with black bar