Jon Benson , Sep 18, 2008; 08:48 a.m.
Just a simple question. Will the Keiv lenses or film backs work on my 500c body?
Trying to save some $$$
Thanks,
Jon
Ulrik Neupert , Sep 18, 2008; 10:00 a.m.
No, they will not fit a 500C. Even on the Hasselblad 1600F and 1000F (the Kiev is a crude copy of those) they will usually not fit.
Ulrik
H. P. , Sep 18, 2008; 10:27 a.m.
There are modified Ukrainian magazines that are claimed to fit but I'd be carefull, as damaging the magazine/body interlock is not recommended. The finders from the Kiev and its successors will fit on a 500c but not the other way round.
Raymond Wong , Sep 18, 2008; 11:27 a.m.
A related question: Will my Hassy 1000F lenses fit on a Kiev body?
I have a Tessar 80, Sonnar 250 and a Dalmeyer 500cm, but my 1000F body is touch and go.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
Taras Hnatyshyn , Sep 18, 2008; 11:36 a.m.
Kiev lenses do not have leaf shutters, so even when they are converted to a Hasselblad mount, they would only be useful for those with
focal plane shutters (2000 series). There is a 30mm Arsat that is marketed for Hasselblad 2000 users for less than a quarter of the price of
the Zeiss Distagon-F "equivalent". That same site used to market Kiev roll film backs for Hasselblads, but does so no longer, though there
is still some evidence that they used to do so. I assume that the new version of the Kiev backs was less compatible with the Hasselblad
bodies.
Taras Hnatyshyn , Sep 18, 2008; 11:39 a.m.
Raymond,
There are at least two different Kiev mounts, one of which is compatible with the Pentakon 6, I believe.
Ulrik Neupert , Sep 19, 2008; 04:25 a.m.
Raymond,
I have never had a Kiev camera in my hands to try if the Hasselblad 1000F-lenses will fit. Better have your 1000F repaired anyway. Or get a fully CLA'd 1000F body from me in exchange for your Dallmeyer 500 mm lens.
Ulrik
Jérôme Desfontaine , Sep 19, 2008; 07:06 a.m.
1000F lenses can on Kiev
Raymond, I know somebody trustable, that has a 1000f (or a 1600f either), and he uses it's lenses on Salyut-S, with
infinity focus.
But the top of the lens isn't really at the top, mounted on a Kiev, it is a little on the side.
For the backs, I'm exploring the problem, it seems that Hasselblad 500 have larger frame protruding from the body into
the back, so ukrainian backs need more modifications to be put on a Hasselblad, than the swedish back to go on a Kiev.
Another problem seems to be the larger gap between body and back due to the little protruding frame from the ukrainian
body, there is a light issue. Also old type Ukrainian back absolutely needs the little needle tha gets out at the end of the
cocking, NT ones doesn't except to reset automatically the double exposure lever.
I have modified a classical Hasselblad back, and a newer one (crank model, 12 button), and still experimenting, on both
a Kiev 88, and Salyut-S, when every issue will be adressed, I'll post a full tutorial for such modification.
And, why bother with a Kiev back on a hasselblad when both back can be found for almost the same price.
Q.G. de Bakker 
, Sep 19, 2008; 11:43 a.m.
The bigger question is why bother experimenting with Hasselblad backs, to make them fit Kievs??? Kiev backs are too expensive, whereas... ???
;-)
Jérôme Desfontaine , Sep 19, 2008; 02:52 p.m.
I'm a challenging donkey
Kiev OT backs can have problems keeping film plane, I don't like post '74 ones, and pre-'74 are hard to find.
NT ones are simply ugly with their plastic slide support, and seem to be less reliable than old ones.
For the time I had my Zenith 80, I settled to its good backs, now it is gone I have a Salyut-S, a Kiev 88, and the
backs I had with them are no good.
So I looked around and helped by the euro/dollar par I had some deals to have Hasselblad backs for next to nothing.
Also that's a funny challenge, everybody on the net pretends they can't be mounted on Ukrainian bodies. As I can't
take something for right until I've seen it myself (Yes, I'm a real donkey), I'll try and say to the world it can be done
easily.
So then it could help people who want to use 220 or even 70mm film on Kievs.
I think a little modification on the kiev can be done for it to be able to use both original and non-modified Hasselblad
backs (or just slightly modified to keep compatable with V bodies), but it will be next step only.