Jemini Joseph , Sep 13, 2004; 02:22 p.m.
Nature photography friends
I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile for me to gather money
and get the IS lens.
Two questions
1) How many of the IS 500/4 or IS 600/4 (both canon) owners shoot
hand held or with monopod?
2) howmany of you turn on IS when you shoot on a solid tripod (say
Gitzo G1548).
Little background
I'm trying to figure out overall how much percentage of extra images
I'll get if I
buy IS. I'm also curious that if people will turn off IS when you
have strong support because
IS may reduce the image quality.
I have no doubt that IS/VR is extremely useful when you shoot
hand held or on a monopod. It's very usefull when shooting from
car window with no tripod head. I have no doubt that I'll just
go and buy Canon 500/4 IS lens if I had 5000 dollars sitting in my
bank :). Can I have some honest opinions? Thanks in advance.
Here's one image taken from car window using window as support, ISO
400
Sigma 500mm 1/160 shutter speed..

www.color-
pictures.com
steve phillipps , Sep 13, 2004; 03:21 p.m.
Well that picture looks pretty sharp enough to me!
I've not got into IS/VR, but so many pros have that logic sugqests it must be working, and without degrading the image quality one bit. In fact you hear of folks stacking teleconverters now so the lens and TC quality must be top-notch. For me it sounded fantastic at first, but then I thought that being able to use slow speeds would be OK but the subject would have to be dead still or you'd get subject blur, so maybe you'd never want to go that slow anyway so why spend the extra cash?
But with them now working properly when tripod-mounted I think they really would be useful, just allowing you to relax and not worry so much about bracing on the lens barrel, holding your breath etc. when on a 600 or 800mm at around 1/125th-1/250th, and even more so when doubling up to 1200mm or so.
I'm a cameraman and only stills in down-time so I can never justify spending so much on stills gear, but if I could I would definitely go for a 300mm IS, 600mm IS and 1.4 and 2x TCs. Only a couple of months to Christmas!
Steve
John Lund , Sep 13, 2004; 03:37 p.m.
I don't think you'll be able to deduce a percentage of extra keepers, but I think you'll find Pölking's article, Sharp Photographs, enlightening.
Mark Ci , Sep 13, 2004; 05:56 p.m.
IS will NOT reduce image quality on a tripod on these lenses. In fact it is likely to enhance it unless your long lens technique is perfect, there is no breeze, shutter speed is very high, etc.
Greg S , Sep 13, 2004; 06:28 p.m.
I looked at a few of the charts on that Sharp Photographs link and don't quite understand how a cable release makes for blurred results. It's a critical piece of gear for me in low light, slower shutter situations and I use it specifically to achieve sharp results. -Greg-
Sergey Oboguev , Sep 13, 2004; 06:40 p.m.
I use 600/4 IS, obviously never handheld or on monopod, but rather on Wimberley head, always unlocked. (By the way, G1348 IMHO is much more usable than G1548.)
IS is always on for static shots (I tend to turn it off for bird flight shots with exposures shorter than 1/500, for faster tracking).
For static shots, IS makes substantial statistical difference in sharpness and retained detail even at fairly short exposures.
> IS may reduce the image quality
Not with 600/4 or 500/4. These are third-generation IS lenses and they can autosense when lens shake is below a threshold, in this case IS shifts into mode to compensate for mirror slap. However as I said in practice you are most likely going to be using 600/4 floating on unlocked Wimberley head so having IS makes a noticeable difference.
Beau Hooker
, Sep 13, 2004; 06:43 p.m.
Hi Jemini, I have a 500mm f/4 IS and leave the IS on pretty much all the time, tripod or not. I find it very helpful myself. Good luck!
John Lund , Sep 13, 2004; 06:59 p.m.
Greg - Pölking does say a little something about it under the heading "Cable trigger or manually ?" I have found that keeping my hands on the camera/lens can help in wind, but that's an exceptional case. Otherwise, I tend to agree with you.
Heather Forcier , Sep 13, 2004; 08:41 p.m.
I have only handheld my 500 f/4 a few times and only for a short time. I have my IS on all the time, even when on the 1348 tripod. I can't give you exact numbers on how many keepers I get because of the IS that I wouldn't otherwise have, but I have been able to shoot at some pretty low shutter speeds and obtain surprisingly sharp images. I have to attribute at least a good part of that to IS technology.
Kent Staubus
, Sep 13, 2004; 11:15 p.m.
I wasn't aware that there was a Nikon lens out with VR at the 500mm or 600mm focal length. For what's worth, I have the 80-400mm VR lens and would be very hesitant to buy a long lens without VR after using that.
Kent in SD