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R1C1 Kit

Stephen Abad , Jul 24, 2006; 12:21 p.m.

I just purchased my R1C1 kit and I love it. I was just wondering if anyone recommends getting a rechargable cr123a battery for it. The manual recommends not to use rechargable and only Lithium 3v CR123A batteries; will a 3.6V Lithium Ion rechargable work? I don't wanna risk breaking my new flashes so can someone help me please. Batteries are so expensive!

And one more thing. The adapter rings that come with the kit are great but I have a 82mm Sigma macro lens that cannot fit into any of the adapter rings. The biggest size the kit comes with is 72mm. Can anyone direct me as to whart I can do to use this favorite lens of mine with the adapter rings.

Thanks so much Steph

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Robert Lai , Jul 24, 2006; 01:02 p.m.

Stephen, you can always try an 82 - 72mm step down ring. One will set you back $11.06 here at Camerafilters.com. I have no relationship to them, except that I've been a customer in the past. You may have to check for vignetting.

Sorry, I don't know the answer to your battery question.

KL IX , Jul 24, 2006; 01:58 p.m.

The biggest size is actually a 77mm, so you might look at a 82-77mm step down ring. I have no idea whether it will vignette.

Another option would be to bypass the ring adapter all together, and just rig up something that holds the SB-R200's in position.

As to the batteries - play it safe, and use the lithium batteries for now, since you don't really know how long they will last in the SB-R200's. If they do prove to be battery power hogs, then start looking at other options.

KL

Robert DeCandido, PhD , Jul 24, 2006; 02:07 p.m.

Hi,

I have the R1C1 kit. I find the battery (the CR 123a) powers each unit for quite a good number of exposures. I was pleasantly surprised. I would estimate that I get about 750-1000 flashes out of 1 CR 123a, and this battery will power the SU-800 commander a bit longer than the individual flash heads.

I looked at the rechargeables too...However, my mental calculations came up with this: but after buying a recharging unit (at least $30), and paying for the rechargeable batteries, you could buy many, many disposable CR123a's. And when I looked, the charger would only charge one battery at a time...so as much as it goes against my environmental-recycle leanings, I purchased a load of disposable CR123a's from this storefront that can be found at www.pricegrabber.com:

(link)

I think he charges $1.54 for each battery (generic; but they work fine) plus shipping. I purchased about 60 back in April. He charged me about $7 to ship that amount of batteries. Right now he has 18 in stock. I suggest purchasing all of them, and working out a set charge for shipping.

Hope this helps,

rdc/nyc

Frank Skomial , Jul 24, 2006; 03:03 p.m.

I use the UltraLast Rechargeable Li-Ion. Perhaps the "UltraLast" could be a register product name in China ?

3 Volts, ULCR123R battery made in China. They are rechargeable, and are rated 3 Volts, and not 3.6 like the batteries you have in mind.

I read the Nikon manual, and it does not say anything what battery not to use. It says use CR123A (3V) only, on page 125.

The battery I use is also CR123R (3V), when letter R stands for rechargeable. It works for me just fine.

I got 2 batteries with the Li-Ion Charger that charges 2 batteries and supplies 360 MilliAmps at 3.6 VDC. The higher charging voltage is always required to charge any battery.

The charger has RED color LED when charging, and it changes color to GREEN when the charger is completed. The charger was made in China.

Name of the maker of the charger or the battery is unknown. Since it was sold at Fry's Electronics, I did not hesitate any further.

KL IX , Jul 24, 2006; 03:52 p.m.

Some CR123R batteries are 4 volts or even a little higher. If you use these, the SB-R200's will shut down to protect itself. Don;t know what the long term effect is.

At 3.6 volts, as the previous poster mentioned, it might be fine, but who knows what the long term effect is. The units require 3V and IMO your best bet is to use a battery that outpus 3V, nothing more, nothing less. There are many websites that sell CR123A at $1 each, when you buy in quantity.

IMO, the high voltage risk does not offset whatever cost savings there may be in getting CR123R's. You spent over $600 on your kit; are you really going to try to save a buck or two per month ???

Try this place:

(link)

Robert DeCandido, PhD , Jul 24, 2006; 04:08 p.m.

KL IX,

That is wonderful research...great find. Thanks! Good prices...best I have seen yet. Thank You.

rdc/nyc

Danny Weber , Jul 24, 2006; 10:22 p.m.

I bought this kit for my R1 set from batteryjunction.com:

http://batteryjunction.com/4parc390reli.html

These perform well in the R200 flash heads--I've been using them for five months without any problems. The charger and four batteries cost $32 shipped and I received them in three days after placing the order.

Danny W.

Manel Soria , Jul 06, 2007; 06:35 a.m.

Danny, But see the specs in your link: "Peak voltage of 3.0V Li-Ion will be 3.60V after fully charged" Are your SB-R200 units still going on well ?

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