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Ken Austin , Aug 29, 2006; 09:42 a.m.

I recently ordered a D70s body on line for a very good price. During the sale, I found out why the price was so good. The salesman started trying to sell me lenses, batteries, etc. for outrageous prices, so much so that the overall price of the system was not such a good deal. I refused and he told me the camera would be useless without these items (like I couldn�t figure that out) and when I told him I already had these items, he proceeded to call me a liar.

By all good measures I should have hung up on him, but I was so POed that I told him I wanted the camera anyway. He reluctantly took my order and gave me an order number, but didn�t ask for a shipping address. Then he told me it was on back order until after the first of the year.

After I cooled off, I got to thinking that maybe he didn�t even take the order, so I called back. This time I got a different salesman, but just as arrogant. He confirmed that the order had been taken and that it was indeed on backorder but should be shipped out in a week or so. He then stated in on the same thing as the first salesman. After I finally convinced him I could use the camera without any additional parts (without calling me a liar), he told me the camera would be useless to me because it was a Japanese model not a USA model (trying to switch me over to a more expensive USA model).

By now, I am so tired of having smoke blown in my ear, I told him I could speak Japanese (If I am going to be called a liar, I might as well be one!). He still did not ask for any shipping info, so I volunteered it. He said that they would get that information when the camera came in and they would call me and confirm that I still wanted it. Now I know what is coming.

My question is, have I screwed up (I can still back out)? Is there really a difference between a Japanese model and a US Model?


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Arthur Yeo , Aug 29, 2006; 09:54 a.m.

I bet the shop is based in Brooklyn, NY. No insults intended for those living in this place.

You need to device a strategy to get out of this deal. You're wasting your time with these crooks and your money. All you get will be frustrations and stress. And, the savings (if any) you get will not amount to anything close to the psychological trauma you're getting.

Call them and cancel the order. Be ready to deal with resistance. And, don't give them anymore personal info ... please.

Akira Sakamoto , Aug 29, 2006; 09:59 a.m.

Hi, Ken,

I think that the default setting of the language is Japanese on Japanese models, which should be the only difference:-)

By the way, does that shop offer so attractive a price of D70s that you want to call them repeatedly in spite of such arrogant attitude?

Albert Darmali , Aug 29, 2006; 10:03 a.m.

?? What kind of sales person was that calling the customer a liar ? Even if the customer is a liar, you don't say that to the customer.

I think you have been over-patient with this shop. I wouldn't put up with that kind of attitude/service just to save a few more bucks if I were you.

Think about what would happen if the camera was faulty, then you would have to deal with them again. Not worth it IMO.

Pico diGoliardi , Aug 29, 2006; 10:10 a.m.

I hate to write this, but I don't think you will ever get the camera. Post the name of the place and you might find a lot of similar cases.

Richard Williams , Aug 29, 2006; 10:10 a.m.

Shun Cheung , Aug 29, 2006; 10:11 a.m.

Don't worry, they are not actually going to sell you a D70s at that "attractive" price, anyway. Did you give them your credit card number? If so, I would watch for abnormal charges on it.

Patrick (Washington, DC) , Aug 29, 2006; 10:15 a.m.

frankly ken, you seem to intelligent and articulate to get sucked into such a scam. call immediately and cancel all your dealings with said company and then instruct your credit card company not to accept any charges from them.

life is way too short to worry about saving a few dollars like that. if you want to save money on a D70s, I'd buy a used one. Or better, wait a few weeks and buy a D80.

D. Munteanu , Aug 29, 2006; 10:32 a.m.

Hm, I thought these things never happen in America. What low life bastards, shouldn't some kind of state-agency (costumer protection? we have it even in Romania) take care of these guys?

Ken Austin , Aug 29, 2006; 10:41 a.m.

Wow � I didn�t expect so may useful responses so fast. Thanks.

Arthur, -- yes, that particular shop was based in Brooklyn NY. Have you had dealings with them before?

Akira,-- thanks for the info. I assumed that the Japanese settings can be changed to US!

To all � the price of the camera was $319 for the body only. That was up from a $299 sale price the previous weekend. I thought that was a pretty good deal. And probably will be if I don�t have to put up with anymore male bovine feces out of them.


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