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Anyone NOT use AF-Single Area focus mode?

Ben Henny , Sep 23, 2007; 01:21 a.m.

I just got a D40, and I'm still getting used to it. My last SLR was a Canon film camera, and a lot has changed since the EOS 620.

I'm not sure why anyone would ever set the focus to anything other than AF-Single Area (focus on the center bracket). If it's set to anything else, I can't focus on my subject, because the camera decides what my subject is.

I set it on AUTO this afternoon, shooting a friend's birthday party, and discovered that the focus option isn't saved in AUTO mode - it focused on the WRONG THING for several candid shots that are lost forever in time - frustrating. Must remember to shoot always in P, A, or M.

Does anyone shoot in any other mode - "Closest Subject" or "Dynamic Area"? Am I missing out on some great function that my backward, 1990s mind can't grasp?

When I focus, I want to decide what my subject is.

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Don Cooper , Sep 23, 2007; 02:00 a.m.

"Group dynamic/closest subject" is invaluable for flying birds or similar subjects/situations.

Kris Heylen , Sep 23, 2007; 03:40 a.m.

Like you, I came from a Canon film camera and then switched to a D50. With film I had only 3 focus points, and only ever used the middle one, locked focus where I wanted it, recomposed and shot.

When I first got the D50, its 5 focussing points where just too much for me. But later I found they are in a lot more useful position, and now I got used to using ONLY ONE of them, but choosing the one that's more appropriate for the picture I want to take.

I can understand that for flying birds or similar, as Don said, group dynamic/closest subject is ideal, as long as you have enough focus points. I don't think in a group of birds my 5 focussing points would cut it.

Maybe I'm still too used to the focussing technique I used on my old film Rebel, and still don't trust the electronics.

Anyway, resuming: I use one focus point and I decide which. I also (almost) never use the tracking focus, but then I don't shoot fast moving objects.

Regards,
Kris.

ken schroeder , Sep 23, 2007; 06:48 a.m.

Very good question, Ben. If you think things have changed a lot since your Canon EOS 620, imagine going from a meterless Nikon F and a view camera to a D70.

Not only does the camera switch to closest point with AUTO mode, it does the same (on the D70 and maybe your camera, as well) in PORTRAIT mode. If that isn't annoying enough, whenever you switch back to these modes, the close focus default returns. Thanks, Nikon. One more thing to set on "auto".

I use primarily aperture or occasionaly shutter modes. I would be happy with only single point focus. I have experimented with dynamic focus with my speeding two year old grandson. The jury is still out on that. Most of my shooting is done with the 50mm f1.8 lens. That's a carry over from my manual shooting. Recently I have been leaving the focus assist light on for low light. Again, the jury is still out on that, but I am leaning toward liking it.

One small skill you should master is being able to set the point of focus. Last week, the D70 decided to move it from center to the right side. Something must have been bumped. I carry both the guide book and the Magic Lantern guide in my camera bag for just such situations. I adapted until I could stop and read how to switch back. Sometimes the skill is being able to switch back instead of "creative switching".

Ben, I would encourage you to both become very practiced in the settings which work for you and also explore the other possibilities of the camera. Do the former quickly and the latter more slowly. You have already encountered one of the camera's defaults. For those who are willing to spend the time and energy, today's digital cameras offer an amazing amount of potential flexibility. Become very familiar with your instruction book. I like the Magic Lantern book, also. (I suspect there is also one for your D40.) By all means, get the Nikon DVDs.

One other thought, if I may. I plan to use my D70 until it dies or I bump into too many walls with what it can't do. So far, the limitations have been operator inexperience. Do the same with your D40. There is much to learn with digital work. I believe it is best learned with practice rather than planning the next camera to buy.

Good shooting, and stay focused.

Ken

Elliot Bernstein , Sep 23, 2007; 06:52 a.m.

99% of my typical shots are done with the middle point.

For most shots, one point, usually the center point, is all that most people need (depending on the lens used). If you are using a faster lens like an 85mm 1.8 or 1.4 where depth-of-field could be an inch or less, you would typically want to use one of the other points which falls exactly where/what you want focussed rather than recomposing after locking the focus in order to get accurate focus. For example, if you were shooting a portrait with an 85mm lens and wanted to focus on the subjects eyes and the center point was on the subject's chest, you would want to use one of side points that falls right on their eyes. Tilting the camera up, locking the focus, tilting the camera down and then shooting would not give you the focus you are looking for.

I have not found dynamic of closest subject to work well consistently, especially in lower light. I find I am much better off carefully tracking a moving subject with the center point than relying on the camera tracking the subject. This take a little more practice and skill, but gives better results.

But ultimately everyones experiences will be different and others will find closest subject and/or dynamic focusing to work best for them. Personally, I would live with only one focus point if I had to.

Peter Hamm , Sep 23, 2007; 07:37 a.m.

About 90% of my shooting is the center point. I believe on a camera like the D40 that's the most reliable focus point, too. It works differently than the others. I think that's true on D40 50 and 70 (and 80?)

Ronald Moravec , Sep 23, 2007; 09:05 a.m.

D200, but 99% center and then recompose. The other 1% is closest object and I should use it more.

I do lots of manual focus with primes and macro lenses.

Shun Cheung , Sep 23, 2007; 10:21 a.m.

While there are always exceptions to any rule, but the basic rule for composition is not to put your subject in the center of the frame. Instead, if you divide your frame into a tic-tac-toe grid, it is usually best to place your subject in one of the 4 intersections in that grid.

Therefore, ideally, you should at least have AF points in those 4 locations plus some others in your frame. That is precisely why I like the placement of AF points on the D2X, as demonstrated by this illustration in DPReview: http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD2X/Images/viewfinderview.jpg

If there is only 1 AF point in the center or only 3, it tends to lead to poor compositions or you have to lock focus and recompose, which is not ideal especially when there is action.

The 11 AF point placement on the D200 and D80 is quite good also. The D40 is an entry-level DSLR, which is still capable of capturing excellent images, but this is one of its many limitations.

Hans Janssen , Sep 23, 2007; 11:20 a.m.

An other advantage of using the measuring spot, that is on the right place, is that when you are using spotmeting, you also measure the light with that spot.

Ben Henny , Sep 23, 2007; 12:05 p.m.

I started out with a manual focus, so focus/recomposing is a natural part of my technique, and so far, the mult-zone hasn't been very good at reading my mind to discover the subject in my frame.

The Canon at least allowed me to set the focus to the center for all modes, which was the first thing I did when I bought it, and it remembered the setting. Now that I think of it, I set my point n shoot to center also, and it remembered the setting.

So it looks like the multi-zone focusing is a nuisance that I will need to overcome - or just never shoot in any mode other than P or M.

Although all the extras on the camera are impressive, I rather miss the simplicity of manual cameras. I wish they made a digital back for the F4.


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