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any resources of photography that is actually art, and not just perfected craft?

pawel baranski , Jan 20, 2012; 09:53 a.m.

I have trouble finding pictures that i like. I think that sites like 500px.com have almost exclusively pictures that are perfected craft - but nowhere close art. These pictures does not contain any kind of emotional message from neither author or subject of photography. They are simpy uninteresting.
Only place worth visiting online i know is americansuburbx.com. I'd like to know more of these, especially places with user-generated content.
Do you know anything?

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Les Berkley , Jan 20, 2012; 10:00 a.m.

Not completely true about 500px, but I understand what you are saying. Try jpgmag.com. You have to wade through a lot of bad snapshots, but the good stuff is there for the finding.

Bob Sunley , Jan 20, 2012; 10:28 a.m.

There are a few photos in the galleries here, should be 100% user generated too. :)

How do you define art?

Wouter Willemse , Jan 20, 2012; 10:49 a.m.

What is perfected craft, and what is art?
The fact that you find them uninteresting does not mean they're not art. The fact that they are crafted extremely well does not mean they're not art.
They're just not to your taste. Which is fine, can happen.

I find interesing photos (to my taste) everywhere. Flickr, here, pbase, facebook, 500px, google image search... plenty good stuff out there. And even more stuff I do not like, but I'm not too bothered by that.

pawel baranski , Jan 20, 2012; 10:52 a.m.

500px are postacard pictures. Amazing, perfect, postard pictures. These pictures are result of great experience and knowledge. However, soul is the missing piece. These pictures were created merely with brain, not heart. They are not affected by personality of creator. These are pictures you just admire visually, rather than experiencing emotionally.
Learning rules of composition, perfecting exposure and spending few hours in photoshop is not enought to create art, and these are only components of pictures such as these on 500px.
I undersand that such explanation is not sufficient to define art, and my complains remains unclear, but this is the best i can do.

Luis G , Jan 20, 2012; 10:57 a.m.

Try the better photo art blogs (google that). They're infinitely more selective and well edited.

Darin Cozine , Jan 20, 2012; 10:57 a.m.

Try black and white magazine, and for that matter color magazine. also lenswork.

Another source for good artwork imho is deviantart.com.. its a mixed bag but you can find some great stuff and great ideas.

Lauren MacIntosh , Jan 20, 2012; 01:09 p.m.

anybody who truly work's at any field of en devour will become a skilled person and their results will show it. but to see the main stream of the run of the mill facebook is where its at :

andrew gardiner , Jan 20, 2012; 01:30 p.m.

Hi Pawel, Americansuburb is one of my favourites too for (mainly) contemporary photographs with an American angle. But have you tried the 'concientious' blog at jmcloberg.com? It is very well regarded and also one of my favourites. It is an excellent overview of contemporary art photography with a more European angle ( though it covers the whole world too - check out their extensive archives). Also the photobook video reviews are highly reccomended.

JDM von Weinberg , Jan 20, 2012; 02:25 p.m.

As your reference to americansuburbx.com clearly illustrates, the truth is the old saw:

Art is in the eye of the beholder

Regardless of the question of technical perfection or not, much of what is there would be described by some people as merely "trendy". Look a the contemporary (with the artist/photographer) reception of Robert Frank or Diane Arbus to see how touchy this issue is. Dismissal of other points of view about these issues is not too productive, as those controversies show very clearly now that we can see them in historical perspective.

"Interesting" is also another trait coming from the observer, not the photographer.


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