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Northern Michigan water falls with Ilford SFX 200 extended red film.

I am relatively inexperienced in using the various B&W emulsions that are currently available. As to why I chose the SFX to record this scene, I can only guess that a compulsion to experiment and attain something unique was responsible. I would like to know if you find this to be an attractive photograph. If not, please suggest how I can improve it.


David Miller , May 30, 2004; 04:26 A.M.

Wow. Attractive? Yes! Improve? How?

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Landrum Kelly , May 30, 2004; 09:08 A.M.

This is even more inviting than the last waterfall shot, Walter. Did you have to dodge the trees and the plants in the foregound to get this effect?

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Sean Depuydt , May 30, 2004; 11:29 A.M.


I was just there yesterday and got some shots. I'm not too happy with what I have so I am going again in the morning. This nice, did you shoot this from platform? I tried some on the ground closer to the falls, which didn't really give a very good perspective. Also it was very misty with the large run off. - Sean

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Kim Slonaker , May 30, 2004; 01:08 P.M.

This is very attractive, Walter. I like the trees in the upper half especially. The lighter tones in the trees really enhance the falls and frame them nicely.

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Walter Tatulinski , May 30, 2004; 03:47 P.M.

Lannie, yes I did...

do a little dodging and burning on this one. I opened an Adjustment Layer (levels), played around with the contrast, gamma, etc. and then erased here and there, mostly on just the lower right and left quadrants. The bulk of the upper half of the photograph is pretty much unaltered, as is the waterfall, except for some of the usual curves adjustment. Thanks for the comment and visit. Regards.

Guido Fulgenzi , May 31, 2004; 12:18 A.M.

Beautiful B&W!

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Bryan Olesen , May 31, 2004; 12:52 P.M.

Beautiful Walter. People, view it large. I'm surprised how much this film renders such a magical 3D quality. Impressive and inspiring.

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Roumen Koynov , May 31, 2004; 01:49 P.M.


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Igor Laptev , May 31, 2004; 11:09 P.M.

WOW! This one is beautiful!

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Stephen Penland , May 31, 2004; 11:25 P.M.

Very, very cool effect. Walter, this is a great image; I love the distribution and balance of light and dark....you've done a great job.

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Thomas Collins , June 01, 2004; 01:50 P.M.

What a great image! I love the lighter colored trees. Combined with the flowing water it creates a very mysterious and mystical setting. Can you just imagine the trout in this water? :-)

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cux . , June 01, 2004; 03:18 P.M.

Wonderful black and white, Walter.
The scene is very peaceful, well composed (I like that fallen dead tree and the perspective) and the effect of the long exposure time is great.
But the best thing for me is the richness in details your photo shows. In large format every portion is a discovery...
I would really like to see your print.

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Mari Mar , June 01, 2004; 05:24 P.M.

Love, Walter, so beautiful and peaceful!

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Max Haynes , June 02, 2004; 01:29 A.M.

This is full of luminous tonal value- like God just stepped out of the crop when the picture was taken. How's that Walter? I tend to wax poetic when I see an image like this.

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Walter Tatulinski , June 03, 2004; 12:41 P.M.

Thank you all...

for visiting.

And Max, I guess I'm a bit of a pedantic dullard at times. Thanks for the review. Regards.

Jenifer Selwa - West Michigan , June 07, 2004; 02:20 A.M.

Walter, this is a great image of Wagner and the first B&W I have seen of the falls. It's one of my favorite spots. I try to get in there about an hour before sunset. I love your composition and the tonality of the Ilford. Nice capture!

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Vincent K. Tylor , June 21, 2004; 05:25 P.M.

I agree with the mystical/spiritual feel comments that this image brings Walt. I can see from the ratings and comments that this one was quite popular. I must have been on the East coast when you posted it.

However, in my mind while it IS very good, personally I find it just a bit too busy for my tastes. I would think that's because this is B&W. Not that I do not like black and white images, because I actually do. It's because it seems somewhat difficult to distinguish all of the detail since it looks so similar throughout...especially in the upper portions of the image. I'll look it over again just to see if it gets simpler. Might be more of a reflection of my life right now than this image! Did you take any in color?? Might be a bit easier on my eyes.....


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Walter Tatulinski , June 24, 2004; 01:54 A.M.

Thanks Jen and Vincent! Yes, I took a few in color, perhaps I will get around to posting those. I understand what you are saying about the complexity of the scene. But I thought I would try for a different view with this. Regards.

Steve Marcus , July 06, 2004; 01:06 A.M.

7/7, from a fellow "Crony" (-;

Read your PN bio, Walter. I'm sorry to see that the current environment may drive you away. I share your general sentiments. I wasn't participating in the Critique Forum during the last great ratings upheaval. However, there's a big difference between then and now. That is that a lot of the people participating in the Critique Forum now are subscribers (paying customers) and my sense is that the majority were pretty happy with the system as it was, warts and all. I'm not sure that the current system will enjoy the same level of customer satisfaction.

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Landrum Kelly , July 06, 2004; 11:43 A.M.

I'm not thrilled with the changes myself. I refuse to let this impel me to leave, which I typically feel like doing every few months or so.

I wrote the above before the other changes took place (the interface), which to my mind makes for a better overview of the photographer's photos and other activities--except that the most-frequently-rated photos link almost drops out of sight.

Walter, I just viewed this on large, and it is spectacular.

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Walter Tatulinski , July 07, 2004; 01:42 A.M.

Steve, Lannie..

thanks! You're both good Cronies (aka Friends). Regards.

Jos Van Poederooyen , July 07, 2004; 12:47 P.M.

Very Nice, Walter!

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Becca Cockrum , July 08, 2004; 12:58 A.M.

Walter, please rename this folder from 'To Be Deleted (folder)' to 'Masterpieces (folder)' ;-) Thanks... ( this too will pass... )

Really your talent, vision, and passion for photography are an inspiration to me....

What does 'inverted and adjusted' mean? Confused about the 'inverted' part...

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Radek Janicki , July 08, 2004; 03:21 A.M.

So many details, that it makes hard to focus, yet nice atmosphere. I like the shot!

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Walter Tatulinski , July 08, 2004; 01:15 P.M.


Hi Becky; thank you for that! This photograph was made from a B&W negative. Sometimes I get better results with my scanner (because of its built-in firmware) if I scan negatives as positives; the resultant scan is a negative of the image. I then invert them back into positives in Photoshop (Image>Adjustments>Invert). By "adjusting" I simply mean the usual curves, levels, sometimes dodging and burning, and unsharp mask sharpening that one would apply to any photograph. Well, I don't know about you, but I just lost myself with all that. Best Regards.

Steve Marcus , July 09, 2004; 03:18 A.M.

Walter, I noticed that you renamed the folder containing this photo. Can I assume that this means you've changed your mind about leaving? I hope so. (-:

BTW, the info above on scanning negatives as positives seems like a good approach to me, although I imagine it takes some time getting used to making scanner adjustments based on a negative prescan.

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Walter Tatulinski , July 09, 2004; 01:24 P.M.


yes, I've come to my senses and realized that life would be unbearable without Photonet ;o) Seriously though, the decision was largely due to support from people such as yourself, Lannie, and Becky. I appreciate that support more than I can say.

Concerning the scan, it is a little tricky, since you are looking at the negative image. I use the procedure of Erik de Goederen (inventor of the Scanhancer diffuser). You are basically just observing the histogram. With color negatives, one looks at the three RGB histograms. Erik has outlined the procedure quite well and it can be downloaded as a PDF from his site: http://scanhancer.iddo.nl/

I normally do not use this technique, but with some problem negatives I found it to be invaluable. It is also fun to experiment now and then too. Regards.

Vincent K. Tylor , July 09, 2004; 01:58 P.M.

If things were ever to get so bad where you leave Walt, I'd probably be right behind you. I don't see that happening though. Too bad too, cause I could get quite a bit more done WITHOUT Photo.net! Know what I mean? ...Aloha.

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Walter Tatulinski , July 09, 2004; 03:38 P.M.


yes I do! Regards.

Steve Marcus , July 09, 2004; 06:03 P.M.

Glad you came to your senses, Walter, although Vincent does make a good point. Believe me, I know how you both feel. (-;

And thanks for the additional info on scanning negatives as positives!

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Lisa Grant , July 25, 2004; 10:51 P.M.

This is my favorite from your portfolio. Wow! Just breathtaking. You really have an eye for beauty. Thank you for sharing.

Respectful Regards, ~Lisa

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Walter Tatulinski , July 26, 2004; 02:36 A.M.

Thank you Lisa! This is one of my favorites as well. The infrared effect is rather mild with the SFX but still produces a dream-like state. Regards.

Walter Tatulinski , June 05, 2005; 08:35 P.M.


I just noticed that Bailey Seals gave this a 6/5. I must have done something right for a change.

Vincent K. Tylor , June 06, 2005; 12:39 A.M.

And Hanna gave your latest a 6/6, with a compliment. (Gulp)... something is very very wrong here Walt...

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Sondra Kicklighter , October 09, 2006; 05:56 P.M.

Walter, one of these days I am going to see some new work from you. Until then I will continue to peruse your portfolio. This is a wonderful b/w image with your usual good exposure.

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Nadya R. , April 09, 2008; 10:24 P.M.


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