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Male vs Female nudes/portraits

Esau B. , May 12, 2006; 07:41 p.m.

I find it amusing and disturbing at the same time, that a male nude or even a simple portrait of a man gets no credit or even so much as a notice on this website. Where as ANY female nude, regardless of how bad the lighting/composition/or what-have you is, will always garner a high rate and critique by the men on this site. Are you all that homophobic that the thought or even the sight of a man makes you all squeemish? Is only the female body a beautiful thing? I am neither gay nor bi-sexual, just a human being who is amazed at the gender prejudice that is prevelant in the world. I know this is a cultural constraint, the ignorance of acceptance, but i guess i expected more from artist who are by nauture supposed to be more open minded and see the beauty that others don't. Acknowledging a man as as handsome or attractive does NOT make you a homosexual, just as acknowledging a female does not make you hetrosexual.

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Zane Johnson , May 12, 2006; 08:03 p.m.

> a male nude ... gets no credit or even so much as a notice on this website...

Really? No comments, no views, no reaction at all---ever?

> ANY female nude, ... will always garner a high rate...

Really? Always? I think you're exaggerating the situation.

> Is only the female body a beautiful thing?

I think it is more beautiful, but maybe that's because I'm biased (being a hetero man). But I have no trouble acknowledging a good looking man.

> ... artist who are by nauture supposed to be more open minded...

Why do you believe 'artists' are more open minded or enlightened than the rest of humanity? I think they fall on a wide spectrum, just like the rest of us mere mortals.

For example, Picasso was a creep: http://www.slate.com/id/3503/

Bruce Levy , May 12, 2006; 08:39 p.m.

It's difficult, but not impossible to do really great male nudes with out the focus seeming to be homoerotic (unless that's what you're aiming for, especially if it's a "beautiful" male. But that might be our own present society that evokes that.

John H. , May 12, 2006; 08:49 p.m.

Most people figured out, years ago, that guys prefer to look at girls. Its also not a news flash that people tend to support things they prefer rather than that which they don't. This is silly.

Steve Unsworth , May 12, 2006; 08:52 p.m.

Most people who view internet forums are male. Most males are hetrosexual. Many hetrosexual males find female nudes sexually stimulating. The rest you should be able to work out.

Esau B. , May 12, 2006; 09:21 p.m.

I tend to agree with Bruce's view more so than any of the other replys. The first guy never really answered the question other than saying he thinks females are "more beautiful". Granted, i prefer them myself, but that does not mean to close your eyes to other forms of beauty.

John, thank you for that "enlighting" statement about men preferring to look at women. I'm glad to now be one of the "many" who understand that concept. ;o) But again, maybe you can explain to me what part of a building you prefer? Or maybe the giraffe? Or which part of a telephone pole is your preference? THAT to me is silly, being able to see something in those things and yet shying from your gender, and even your own body.

On Stevens reply: i thought this was a photography forum, a place where photos are critiqued and encouragment offered, and not a porn website?

Stephen H , May 12, 2006; 10:43 p.m.

It seems to me to be the height of arrogance to come on here and state that because others do not like what you like, they are all homophobic, prejudiced, ignorant, close-minded, and can't see beauty.

I have noticed that people have a lot of different tastes here. I recently posted a train picture. Got no comments at all, and mediocre ratings. Does that mean that you're ignorant, biased against trains, afraid of vehicles, can't see the beauty of a mechanical object, etc? That is exactly the same reasoning that you have used.

As to the male/female photography, I think you're just finding a fact of human nature. Go out to the mall and walk around. What do you see? 75% of the stores are clothing stores- specifically, women's clothing stores. We (men and women both) put a lot of emphasis on how women look- and not near as much on how men look. And that carries over to the photography- there's just generally more interest in looking at (and, perhaps just as importantly, in taking) pictures of women than pictures of men. On the other hand, you'll find a lot of interest in men's athletics- and not near as much in women's athletics- just the way it is.

Esau B. , May 12, 2006; 11:20 p.m.

Stephen: i call it how i see it. This arrogance that you speak of is not arrogance at all. I am merely stating an observation of a trend I see, not only on this site but in general. The trend to allow everything, and i mean pretty much anything in this world to be photographed except for the male figure. I have seen numerous train pictures, and car pictures, or animals, and buildings, etc. but it's no coincidence that there is always one thing that's a no-no in photography: the male. And the sad truth is that people ARE homophobic, prejudiced, ignorant, and close-minded. How else would you explain the everything/but phenomena? This is one of those things that's ingrained in our minds from day one: female body good, male body no good. I know it's "just the way it is", i completely understand that, but i'm of the kind that likes to see if their are other ways that "it" could be. Ways that might not exclude others.

on a side note...i like the Locomotive picture on your site ;o)

Bruce Levy , May 12, 2006; 11:38 p.m.

Take a look at http://manstouch.com/niccolini/niccoliniphotocollection.html it's about women shooting male nudes.

Ocean Physics , May 12, 2006; 11:43 p.m.

Having been here nearly a month, you're clearly an expert. However, I was interested in seeing the comments and critiques you've made on male nudes and wasn't able to find any. Maybe you could point them out?


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